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# 111
02-14-2013, 08:44 AM
Maybe working towards the newest shiny is fun for some people. Who are you to tell them they're wrong?
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# 112
02-14-2013, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by hanover2 View Post
Maybe working towards the newest shiny is fun for some people. Who are you to tell them they're wrong?
But does the fun come from mindlessly shooting things in the face click click pow, or from some other aspect? thats the thing that I dont get from things like say Farm 101, a sense of adventure.

Look, it comes down to this, what you or I think doesnt mean ANYTHING if it is decided by the systems people and or management that a change needs be be made because something isn't working in the way they intended. I am frankly getting quite tired of hearing all this Us vs. Them and Elitist nonsense coming out of the hands of ALL people. Personally I have never stated that anything should be removed unless it in some manner hampers aspects of the game. As far as whether I consider working towards some shiny as fun, considering the personal time Ive put in to push pull and drag a small group of people to a T3 starbase...no I cant say thats been fun at all, its almost been work, just with more shooting things in the face, which there have been days I wish I could DO that at work :1
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# 113
02-14-2013, 08:52 AM
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The thing is, everyone seems to keep focusing on stuffz, lootz, ferengi this and ferengi that...the whole idea behind the Foundry was for people to be able to share their ideas of an entertaining mission with other people. Its the somewhat sad state of MMOs where people care more about being Uber L33T and having all the stuffs vs actually finding a way to enjoy the game.

I suppose that for some, the part of being better than all others and having all the toys is their idea of fun. I just think in this whole argument that people are losing sight of actually trying to have fun and not 'what reward can I have or has been taken away'
Ya, I get that but when the IOR went to a repeatable daily it BECAME the farmland that 'some' hate so much. I've tried for a long time to forget the crying by 'some' that their missions weren't played enough even before the IOR went repeatable, but it seems that 'some' have found a receptive ear to ensure their stuff is pushed over others who stuff is more popular. It's not a biggie for me but as atomictiki put it, "it will devolve backinto the exclusive playground that he and others have always wanted" which I think is not good for the foundry overall.
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# 114
02-14-2013, 08:53 AM
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Since it's a spotlight, you would have received an extra 1440 D if it was the first spotlight you played in 24 hours. 2880 D + ECs ain't to shabby!

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And that might be a tiny consolation if dilithium were at all the issue here.
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# 115
02-14-2013, 08:58 AM
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I should note this can be extended to the wider game as well. mindlessly running the same few missions over and over again to get 'teh stuffz' is...its just not a good thing, and this needs to be addressed, frankly I have little motivation to grind for things because....there is little joy in it.
Its the PWE business model! Its not going to changeone iota. if anything it will continue to increase over time.
Leave nerfing to the professionals.
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# 116
02-14-2013, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by castsbugc View Post
The thing is, everyone seems to keep focusing on stuffz, lootz, ferengi this and ferengi that...the whole idea behind the Foundry was for people to be able to share their ideas of an entertaining mission with other people. Its the somewhat sad state of MMOs where people care more about being Uber L33T and having all the stuffs vs actually finding a way to enjoy the game.

I suppose that for some, the part of being better than all others and having all the toys is their idea of fun. I just think in this whole argument that people are losing sight of actually trying to have fun and not 'what reward can I have or has been taken away'
This whole foundry "war" to me is just another jocks vs nerds battle. A large portion of the player base just want to grind the game and play to win y'know the "Starcraft" type, its all about the strategy and who cares about art. And then there are the artsy story tellers who are trying to make an enjoyable player experience or use the game as their own minecraft and build their own little worlds.
Play more STO Foundry! (You can thank me later.)

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# 117
02-14-2013, 09:02 AM
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And then there are the artsy fartsy story tellers who are trying to make an enjoyable player experience or use the game as there own minecraft and build their own little worlds.
Which is exactly what Foundry is for.
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# 118
02-14-2013, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by markhawkman View Post
Which is exactly what Foundry is for.
Hey Im with you guys grinding is just too boring...
Play more STO Foundry! (You can thank me later.)

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# 119
02-14-2013, 09:04 AM
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Which is exactly what Foundry is for.
Says who ?

It wasn't the devs who made it grindable by going to a repeatable IOR daily .
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# 120
02-14-2013, 09:22 AM
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Says who ?

It wasn't the devs who made it grindable by going to a repeatable IOR daily .
ORLY? Have you read ANYTHING the devs have stated on this matter? they have made it quite clear....

Here's what Bran said(he's not a dev but he works for them): http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=550841
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