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# 11
02-11-2013, 03:21 PM
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I can't wait for may, these nerf escorts buff cruisers threads are getting boring and are all the same.
Well if Cryptic actually DID something about the issue then there would be some more interesting threads I am sure!
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# 12
02-11-2013, 03:25 PM
No, you're just trolling.

A cruiser can't lay down the pain like an escort can and you know it's not supposed to.
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# 13
02-11-2013, 03:26 PM
I agree, nothing needs to be done to Escourts, Seems when ever a player spends a ton of EC on new gear and goes to PVP and is not successful they come onto the forums and cry for a nerf. Not directing this to the OP per chance but to the Nerfers in general: its not the Ship or the gear, its the person behind the keyboard.
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# 14
02-11-2013, 03:30 PM
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I agree with that - they should lower the drain on beams. But you still don't cover why ships of great size difference don't have greater hull differences.

The breen ship - classed as an escort comes with the highest hull yet at 36k - and the Jem escort/carrier comes in at 37,500
You are mixing lore with game mechanics... what are you thinking? Next you'll start up the whole "cruisers should get more energy bonuses because of their larger reactors" sillyness. Or maybe it'll be "Beams are superawesomesauce damage dealers!! they should have twice the range just 'cause!!!", that one never gets old either.

As far as the Breen and Jem ships... Cryptic has figured out that by giving people what they want they will sell more and keep people happier ie: escorts with cruiser like hulls. Honestly I'm just glad the new Jemmy escort carrier isn't just a Bug with a bolted on hangar bay.
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# 15
02-11-2013, 03:31 PM
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I agree, nothing needs to be done to Escourts, Seems when ever a player spends a ton of EC on new gear and goes to PVP and is not successful they come onto the forums and cry for a nerf. Not directing this to the OP per chance but to the Nerfers in general: its not the Ship or the gear, its the person behind the keyboard.
Well that's not me - I just began noticing more and more escorts tanking and not going pop in ESTF - and it's not the quality of play as in over 2000++ stf I have seen it all. So I started looking at the hull stats and with the last two escorts its been a hull creep.

Breen was 36k - 3 more than a Fleet defiant and now the Jem Escort carrier at 37,500 were just a few % away from T5 crusiers

Like I said at this rate a 40k escort is coming.

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# 16
02-11-2013, 03:39 PM
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# 17
02-11-2013, 03:44 PM
Do we really need a new post every day hating on escorts?

I think we all get the point by now.
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# 18
02-11-2013, 03:51 PM
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Do we really need a new post every day hating on escorts?

I think we all get the point by now.
Cryptic does not get the point as now you can get an escort(ish) turn rate with a crusier like hull, with a escort firepower.

Why has there not been the same magnitude of hull creep on the crusier side?

Going by the same % increases in hulls the Jem dread should have been over 50k to keep up with the escort hull creep.

Add that to the escort shield mod creep as well.

Fleet Aquarius Destroyer comes closest to what a true escort should be in the game with 26.5k hull and .72 shield mod.

Funny there are lots of T4 shipyards out there but I have not seen one in game yet.

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# 19
02-11-2013, 03:59 PM
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Well that's not me - I just began noticing more and more escorts tanking and not going pop in ESTF
That's because everyone got a buff with the omega and romulan passives. They in effective raised the level cap without actually raising the cap by giving more passives.

So, no. Escorts don't need to be nerfed. And no, we don't need ANOTHER thread on this subject. If escorts were the end-all-be-all of ships, everyone would be flying them. But strangely enough, I see A LOT of cruisers flying around.

EDIT: Or perhaps could it be that, OMG, people are actually learning to improve their gameplay?
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# 20
02-11-2013, 04:04 PM
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That's because everyone got a buff with the omega and romulan passives. They in effective raised the level cap without actually raising the cap by giving more passives.

So, no. Escorts don't need to be nerfed. And no, we don't need ANOTHER thread on this subject. If escorts were the end-all-be-all of ships, everyone would be flying them. But strangely enough, I see A LOT of cruisers flying around.
Yes and I believe the Borg also got nerfed. Still I think a lot of people are still in crusiers because they like crusiers.

But I can tell you a 5 man crusier team is tough to get optional in a pug - but a 5 man escort team is no problem.
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