Lieutenant
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 30
# 1411
02-16-2013, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by izdubar2 View Post
That limits fleet participation to not just level 50s but to those who grinded those hell reps. Better solutions, imo, are "fleet mode" where you sacrifice reward for marks (CoH did this, though I'm sure PWE would be more draconian in ROI), or that quest on the starbase upped to 50/day, or even just be in a fleet, get fleet marks from doing stuff (although I admit that is far too generous for Cryptic to even think of).
This would be a great idea;
As it was suggested before, and I believe come from CoH ?
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# 1412
02-16-2013, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bizzarquestion View Post
Someone even suggested we band together to come up with an idea that we can both compromise on. First and foremost, I'm sorry but I am not getting paid to do that.
True. I mean really...why the hell should we be expected to come up with a solution for their problems? Even then, it's not like they take us seriously. If they did, we'd get more than a single post from them in a day.

I do find it sort of sad that the foundry people aren't getting compensated for their work sometimes. Yeah, we can tip them dilithium, but that's what...a couple of pennies? At the same time, the authors need to realize that you cannot complain your way into success. I deal with authors and writers and the only way to get noticed is to create something so original and different that people cannot help but talk about it. Obviously, if people were not playing your mission before, crying about it will not solve anything. I have refused to work with people simply because of their incessant whining. Go back to the drawing board and come up with something else or at least try and rework your current project into something someone besides yourself might want to get into.

The same can be said for Cryptic. Just because you choose to publish something, in this case perhaps some of the current content on the game, does not mean it's going to be amazing. To be honest, most of us play those STFs and fleet actions simply because that is the only way to get certain rewards. The other option we had was the foundry and by nerfing away a nice reward we are even less likely to take a chance on it.
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 104
# 1413 24hrs 1400+ replies
02-16-2013, 06:57 PM
Well it's a little over 24hrs. since DS opened this thread, 1400+ replies so far. I'm just wondering if it'll reach 2000 before we hear from him again. Even if he has no answers, it might just show that he's connected with the player-base and understands why this is such a hot topic.

Thanks to Bran for being brave enough to stand in front of the fan

(In my ideal world we would get a roll back on this patch, with a very large TEMPORARY sign hanging on it. Lets say two weeks and use this time to find constructive ways to solve this, there have been some good ideas here and in many other threads, I'm sure the devs are putting a great deal of effort into finding a solution as well. So surely between a pretty savvy, and dedicated, player-base and a professional team of developers a workable solution can be found. )

It's nearly 4am here, so goodnight, and here's hoping that the morning brings better news...
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 25
# 1414
02-16-2013, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bizzarquestion View Post
Someone even suggested we band together to come up with an idea that we can both compromise on. First and foremost, I'm sorry but that isn't my job as a consumer. Secondly this single thread and others from as far back as Season 6 have suggestions that go unheeded or dismissed with disdain.
That is fine. This is your viewpoint on the matter, and you are entitled to it.

Regardless...as a fellow consumer in a game that I enjoy playing, I will continue to attempt to affect change in a product or service that I spend my free time in...because I want it to be better. It doesn't matter whether that is my job or not. Sitting on my hands and railing against the devs will not solve the issue. Even if voicing my ideas and opinions goes "unheeded", at least I tried...because not trying guarantees zero change. I'd rather take a slim chance than NO chance.
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# 1415
02-16-2013, 07:05 PM
funny but true story this goes people never post but love yell in Zone! enjoy

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# 1416
02-16-2013, 07:09 PM
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Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 1417
02-16-2013, 07:10 PM
Posting velosity and viewing velocity has decreased a lot over the last few hours. This could mean than the issue is dying down for people or some are just tired of posting.

Personally I believe that Mr Stahl will implement a compromise like the one I suggested like increasing the officer of the watch from 5 to 50 marks - it's a daily and could be coded in 10 seconds by adding a "0" or some other addition.

Of course they could also be trying the - let the fire burn itself out - approach. Letting this thread run for so long with mostly nonsense which is not constructive and at many times rude - may indicate this approach.
Commander
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 289
# 1418
02-16-2013, 07:17 PM
Please keep on topic. Posting sliiy videos or Jokes or off topic subjects will just get thsi thread closed. Please keep posting your concerns and opinions about the IOR nurf and current game bugs.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 1419
02-16-2013, 07:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by born2bwild1 View Post
Posting velosity and viewing velocity has decreased a lot over the last few hours. This could mean than the issue is dying down for people or some are just tired of posting.

Personally I believe that Mr Stahl will implement a compromise like the one I suggested like increasing the officer of the watch from 5 to 50 marks - it's a daily and could be coded in 10 seconds by adding a "0" or some other addition.

Of course they could also be trying the - let the fire burn itself out - approach. Letting this thread run for so long with mostly nonsense which is not constructive and at many times rude - may indicate this approach.
I suspect that we may end up in a similar situation to the STF dilithium grab. They want to reduce the amount of reward issued, but they know people will complain. So, before a weekend when no one's around in the office, they drop an update that removes the reward completely. Then, when all the players have spent the weekend exhausting their rage on the forums, they restore the reward at the reduced amount and are hailed as heroes.

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Lieutenant
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 36
# 1420
02-16-2013, 07:19 PM
Sorry olivia211, I edited my post so I didn't sound so ummm 'pompousy'. Personally have enjoyed your posts and even checked out your vid.

I didn't think anyone else felt the same way as I do since S7 hit, thank you gr4v14t4r for posting exactly what I feel/do.

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Originally Posted by gr4v1t4r View Post
I'm more upset that they removed tech from STF's, introduced a reputation system for it, and then had the audacity to claim they where doing me a favour.

Fact is, in S5 I logged on for fun, mostly straight after I got home, did stuff with fleetmates etc. Now, I don't log in till later in the evening, and most of the time I just chat and look at the exchange. In fact, since I got an out of game client to chat I don't even log in anymore. They have taken away the sole reason for playing, to have *fun*. All that is left to me is chatting and STF's every now and then. The dev's keep going on about dilithium, well I never had a problem maxing my cap in season 5, and I still don't have one, I just don't bother with refining it anymore. And if they really want to help us getting more dilithium for the Starbases, rep systems and whatever, then allow us to donate unrefined dilithium too. That wouldn't hurt the dili economy, and stimulate donations...but that's just wishfull thinking I guess.
I started playing shortly after release (pre-ordered from G Stop) and took a break a few times since, but nothing, not even the 'Year of No Content', has ever made me feel distaste and nearing hatred for a game/publisher as Cryptic/PWE. Even with the ups and downs I have promoted this game telling people 'We were promised to be taken care of, give it a chance.' S7 hit and I said 'No point in subbing more than 1 month now. The cost outweighs the benefits.' Now I say 'Don't. You'll just get heartbroken.'
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