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# 11
02-15-2013, 02:40 PM
more like 5/2, unless an escort is going to have more weapons then a cruiser.

a 5th DHC in the forward arc, ptfff, you don't need a torp, or a BO, ships cant tank firepower of that magnitude, its bad enough trying to tank 5 tac consoles. nothing OP previously released can compete with a 5th DHC, truly an i win button. thats 25% aditianal firepower every fireing cycle on top of any 4 DHC ship

as far as only 4 weapons goes, that has to do with beam arrays. all ship models have 4 forward, and 4 aft beam array firing points. all of them, even the tier 2 connie. you can see them if you use the EPS transfer eng power. cannon hardpoints, theres just 1 set of them, up to 4 weapons fire from them already
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# 12
02-15-2013, 03:06 PM
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Q: (whamhammer1) If it is true that the game?s space combat engine cannot handle more than four weapons per side (front/rear)?

Dstahl: Let me stop you right there. We have a ship coming that breaks this rule, so it is not true.


Could that start with the Kumari?
If that's true, and the Kumari has five tac consoles... yeesh.
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# 13
02-15-2013, 03:09 PM
Im glad they hold the RSE ships back for the full faction. I hated the idea of a romie half faction tied to the KDF or feds. They deserve better.

I hope they release more than just a single ship with 9 weapon points in all three factions.
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# 14
02-15-2013, 05:19 PM
If they make a ship with 5 fore weapons slots it's going to need an insane amount of counter-balance to not be game wrecking.
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# 15
02-15-2013, 08:35 PM
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If they make a ship with 5 fore weapons slots it's going to need an insane amount of counter-balance to not be game wrecking.
When has any of that kind of logic stopped them before....

Don't worry we'll all be here in a few weeks with comparison threads to the fleet escort... and anyone that is flying one will be of the opinion that it is perfectly fine as is... and completely balanced.
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# 16
02-15-2013, 08:58 PM
Is it possible for Them to limit the number of DHC's that can be put on a ship?

Perhaps it'll be limited to two or three DHC's up front...


Or could They have added a new slot, that only fires in a 45*/90* arc to the port and starboard, depending on the weapon loaded?

Or even a new weapon type that only fires in that same arc...??
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# 17
02-15-2013, 09:13 PM
Gecko's said that they're not doing the broadside thing with the Kumari.

It's possible that the Kumari's also not the ship that's breaking the 4/4 rule that Stahl's talking about...though, with no other ship really on the horizon (unless we get surprised in May) - it's pretty good speculation that it will be the Kumari.

Like I said in one of the other threads (or was it this one? I'm so asleep) - is it possible that they might 5/3 or 5/4 it where that 5th is reserved for a QBB... cause if you watch In a Mirror, Darkly (Part 2) - it looks like the Kumari is firing what looks like a QBB, eh? Could the Particle Cannon be a QBB (in the way that the Cutting Beam is a Turret)...?

I mean, we'll know next week - eh?

By the way, anybody make it through the full hour and 9 minutes or so of the P1 supplemental with Gecko? I had to stop at around 20 minutes - then made it to about 29 minutes before stopping again... there's some pseudo interesting stuff about ships in the first 20ish minutes. No Jupiter/Typhoon...blowing off a bunch of ships folks have asked for saying they're just a small crowd...but mentioning things like a Jem Fighter, Janeway Shuttle, Fleet Dread, a "Regent"-like Fleet Negh'Var...more variants for KDF ships...Founders of the Federation...moving more toward original designs for Fed/KDF while continuing to add additional alien ships...etc, etc, etc...
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# 18
02-15-2013, 09:20 PM
Makes me so glad I decided not to take up this game again for pvp.

Poor poor souls.
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# 19
02-15-2013, 09:24 PM
i just was listening to part 1 of the Al interview on priority1, and Al said at the end that the dominion and anniversary ships were the first he did not have a direct hand in stating. NO WONDER! they are very reasonable, and don't reinvent balance around them.

i dont hate gecko, i think he is passionate about the game and wants it to be great, but the bug, and many other ships he has had a hand in, they are just balance eroding, so im happy if he doesn't have quite the hand in ships that he used too.
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# 20
02-15-2013, 09:37 PM
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i dont hate gecko
You're in the minority of PvPers. The man doesn't know what he's doing, or he just doesn't give a crap.
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