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# 211
02-20-2013, 09:20 AM
Originally Posted by reyan01 View Post
My sci alternates between my Fleet Intrepid, Vesta and Nova (Rhode Island Variant) - I suspect that my sci will be fighting alongside numerous Andorian ships over the next few days.

And therein lies two predictable outcomes - firstly, failed STF's resulting from some players, in their shiny new ships, thinking that new ship and new powers = 'I Win'.

Second predictable outcome - Said players will begin to sulk when they realise that their shiny new ship, whilst powerful, can't take a hit and they'll go the way of the Vesta (namely still a few around, but no-where near the numbers there were shortly after it was released).

And predictable outcome 2a: the forum will be flooded with posts, from people who registered on the forum simply to moan about their ship's lack of win.

But in fairness, the Andorian ships look fantastic and I have little doubt that some players will make some extremely effective builds and I very much look forward to seeing THOSE players/ships in STF's etc! Am undecided on whether to purchase one (or the set) for my tac though, because for the amount I've spent on ships recently I could have brought a lifetime sub and am biding my time for the next lifetime sub sale.
maybe i'll jump in a few pug stf's with my Oddy or Galaxy class and heal the smurfs

(btw if Cryptic nerfs this ship, can we call it a smurf .)

Cryptic you Smurf my ship!! now it sings a Happy song.

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# 212
02-20-2013, 09:25 AM
Originally Posted by stoleviathan99 View Post
And its lack of PvP viability is, on the whole, something to be thankful for.
Is it ?

At best, you might see some lucky kills but it's outclassed for PvP by a number of ships, including the Fleet Tactical Escort and, I'd argue, even the Mirror Universe Prometheus and the Armitage.
Perhaps , for now .
But if you go back 1 year and see the introduction of the 5 console ship with the Bug , followed by the Oddy , followed by a slew of others , you can recognize trend setting .

I strongly suspect that this ship is another trend setter .
Sure , it sticks out like a rusty nail now , but wait 6 months .
I'll be surprised if there are no more of these types of ships flying about .

I'll also point to another issue .
I think Cryptic does not intend to take this game anywhere past Lvl 60 .
And that to me means that they have to shove as much ... -- I believe ppl call it "power creep" under the hood of T5 as they can manage -- even if T5 was not designed initially to face such an over-the-top powers .

If this keeps up , soon you will have ships that will shred Tac cubes just as we now can shred normal cubes .
Back in the day (pre-S5 STF's) , even a normal cube took some time to blow up .

Now they can tweak the back end powers so end-game foes seem to remain relevant , but we both know you can only pile so many layers on top of a cake until it starts to look lopsided ... , and no amount of back end manipulation is going to change that .

Right now we're getting Moar Power , and players seem to think that's awesome -- but it isn't really .
If they will not up the level cap , we will get to a point where we will be the equivalent of the fat man who can't get off the chair .

Originally Posted by romuzarii View Post
Considering track records, I'll be waiting a month to see "adjustments" before I dive into this purchase ;x
(except I have 3 new ships that I'm not flying so I have no intent to buy another one)
STO will be out of Beta in another 2-4 years ???
... you know after another 3 story arc remasters, crafting revamp, skills revamp, PVP upgrade ...
*note : the 2-4 year guesstimate came out of comparing Cryptic's Dev speed and that of a snail . Sadly the snail won .

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# 213
02-20-2013, 09:33 AM
Originally Posted by thisisoverlord View Post
So where is the D'Kyrs separate purchasable bridge then?

Whether the ship has a bridge included or a bridge a separate purchase is irrelevant all you're doing is splitting the zen between two components of the overall product. However as I have said they didn't produce a purchasable bridge pack so once again as I stated it's half baked and unfinished.
Well, if you want, they could always establish a new precedent by giving the Vesta a bridge but then going back and making two variants of all single purchase ships with 3 packs in place for all ships or all ships that don't have a fleet version.
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# 214
02-20-2013, 10:52 AM
This 3 pack is going to be the STO equvalent of bananas dipped in chocolate sauce. Tasty Treat Dishing out Epic Beats! I'll never have to fly another ship again on any of my toons. I'll be superior DEEPS, while chilling in any PVE map. The enemy won't know what hit it.

I'm planning on naming my ship the Paradox or Inside Joke. With a Vulcan captain. And a human crew. And using the IGV prefix.

Heck yeah!

Or maybe the IGV Pappa Smurf. That way when all those KDF Gargamels try to pop my mushroom in the pee vee pees, I can just show them exactly what it means when Branflakes says this ship is a flying gun!

PEW PEW BOOM goes the Kumari!
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# 215
02-20-2013, 10:56 AM
I, for one, welcome our Andorian overlords.

Seriously though, these ships look amazing, have a unique bridge, access to Andorian prefixes and some snazzy new abilities. What's not to like. And although I thnk they look amazing, I do hope that it'll allow us to change the skin/material to something slightly less garish.

Something puzzles me though - we all (well some of us) assumed that the ship with side-facing cannon mounts was this. So that must mean there's at least one more cruiser-escort in the pipe.

As far as all the whining goes - dwi. It's not overpowered, and if there was much profit in selling KDF ships then Cryptic would make more. That's why the KDF hasn't had a three-pack since the Bortas, because there's no profit in the KDF.

Oh, and PvP is irrelevant until Cryptic bother to fix it, so I don't see how this ship "breaking" PvP is a problem when it's already broken to begin with.
Iconian? A label created by the Dewans to give voice to their destruction.
In the end, what they chose to call us is irrelevant.
We simply... are.

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# 216
02-20-2013, 12:26 PM
I in all seriousness have to say this Kumari you speak of, I like it very much.

Then will my Klingon Tactical captain be flying this truly excellent ship?

Oh. Well then. Nothing to see here.

. No, really there is nothing to see here because it is no surprise. KDF gets nothing. Where is my 5 console 5/2 BoP with battle cloak?

Not bitter at all. Just putting away my wallet.
Just say no to ARC
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# 217
02-20-2013, 12:34 PM
Originally Posted by tancrediiv View Post
I in all seriousness have to say this Kumari you speak of, I like it very much.

Then will my Klingon Tactical captain be flying this truly excellent ship?

Oh. Well then. Nothing to see here.

. No, really there is nothing to see here because it is no surprise. KDF gets nothing. Where is my 5 console 5/2 BoP with battle cloak?

Not bitter at all. Just putting away my wallet.
Don't tell me you where suprised kdf got nothing.
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# 218
02-20-2013, 12:54 PM
I have only one issue with this ship.

Why is a ship that is supposed to be a 'glass cannon' equipped with an equal number of Engineering console slots as that of a Cruiser, and even given two Engineering BOFF slots? Seems to me, a glass cannon ship would have very few (1 maybe) Engineering slot and its BOFF seating split between Tactical and Science.

Sorry, I'm not seeing the 'glass' portion of this ship. It seems just as able to take damage as well or better than most Science and Escort ships out there.
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# 219
02-20-2013, 01:22 PM
Originally Posted by ziggyds View Post
Don't tell me you where suprised kdf got nothing. I haz known it before it happened is how not surprised a am.
Just say no to ARC
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# 220
02-20-2013, 05:15 PM
specs on tribble are different then what are listed here.

only 32,000 hull hp on tribble.

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