Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 11
02-21-2013, 11:58 AM
Hmm...civilian ships playing the space lanes un-protected and un-escorted could lead to a very profitable career for my Ferengi D'kora captain!
Captain
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# 12
02-21-2013, 12:00 PM
Hands off, my Nausicaan has first dibs being a pirate and all...
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# 13
02-21-2013, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by psiameese View Post
I would play within such a thing as a civilian mini-faction. Which would function as integrated within all other fully-developed factions. One example where this might be fun are the Independent Merchants. Instead of the NPC merchant ships seen in Sector Space currently, those merchants could be the player's instead. A roving, mini-exchange, if you will? As the goods would only be what that player has crafted at Memory Alpha or otherwise scavenged in some way.

Edited for further thought:

These merchant's goods would still be available through the exchange. With a tag indicating that you could buy the goods at a % discount if you seek out the Merchant's trading vessel in sector space.
You sir are getting the idea! What some have failed to realize is a civilian faction would not, and could not be a "full" faction per say. A player would still be part of the Federation or Klingon factions (or what ever comes along in the future) but would simply be a 4th carreer track.. TAC, SCI, ENG, CIV...*grin*

with access to entirely different ships, and mission types. Also, much smaller crews over all... (DOFFS maxed at no more then 50 for the very largest of civilian ships..thats with buying extra DOFF slots.. I would expect the starting DOFF slots to be no more then 30..civilian crews tend to be much smaller..only sufficient to run the ship..)

Civilian characters would have a new DOFF mission track.. "Commerce" those that achive max level could visit the opposing factions "homeworld" locations and bases.

Perhapes thier could even be a "Mercenary" Doff track (ehm, security services if your fed)
so that players could aquire "military" starships (limited to tier 3 ships, which can be deadly dangerous when fitted with Mk XII gear...even with thier lesser BOFF slots) or perhapes custom Armed Auxillury civilian ships. (hey, its Trek, ats still all about the ships you know!)

As for a civ facxtion being limited.. May it be noted for the record that the KDF faction started far more limited in many ways then this proposal... yet people have stuck with the KDF and continue to play them.. in spite of foolish mutterings from certain of the fan base that the KDF shouldn't even be in a trek game. Roddenberry would have been unadmiring of such a limited view of HIS creation.

Khemaraa sends.
Release 8.5 "STO The Next Generation"

Let the happy old bug stomping commence, along with refinement toward enhancing each factions play experience!
Rihannsu
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# 14
02-21-2013, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by oldkhemaraa View Post
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You do realize that if Cryptic provides game play for those non-Fed-playing-players with other options, there is a very real possibility that the current 18% of the playerbase tooling around on the KDF side of the fence will quickly jump the fence to one of the other options which will then lead to even fewer players complaining about the "Red UI"?
Career Officer
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# 15
02-21-2013, 12:38 PM
Sure... I am in...

I do need a chef and a bartender on my ship.

Be warned though... I go into alot of battle.
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# 16
02-21-2013, 12:47 PM
I think I would enjoy playing a Civilian faction rather than a military one. The civilians could have special places where none of the military factions are allowed. Having your own store would also be cool too. Maybe even travel to the Gamma Quad for commodities.
Survivor of Romulus
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# 17
02-21-2013, 01:00 PM
Well, I'm not saying such a thing couldn't be a good, enjoyable game. But to me, it's really not Star Trek. Sounds like Privateer Online or whatever generic space game you want to call it. I'd rather not see the direction of the game go even further away from the tone of the series. YMMV, and all that.
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Cryptic Studios Team
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# 18
02-21-2013, 01:34 PM
It is surprising to see a faction request for "civilian" instead of something more specific like "Ferengi Trader".

Seems like if STO was going to add a non-military faction, it would need to have at least some sort themed faction or alternate gameplay to the ever present space combat of the other factions.
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# 19
02-21-2013, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dastahl View Post
It is surprising to see a faction request for "civilian" instead of something more specific like "Ferengi Trader".

Seems like if STO was going to add a non-military faction, it would need to have at least some sort themed faction or alternate gameplay to the ever present space combat of the other factions.
You are forgetting the "Renegade factor".

Civilians in the STO universe are usually unaligned with the powers... They are bound by no-one but themselves, and don't answer to goverments.

Ferengi traders would still have to answer to the hall of commerce, as where a civilian, who bought a ship from the klingons, weapons from the ferengi, and equipment from the romulans do not answer to anyone but themselves (think Neelix or Morn).

Theres a interesting factor to not feel like you are under someones command... I mean... Think if you didn have a boss above you, and could do whatever you wanted with STO without having to ask permission first... (Don't even pretend that isn't a interesting thought to you).

BTW... I have a slot open for a chef, if you're interested?
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# 20
02-21-2013, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by anazonda View Post
(think Neelix or Morn)
Never, NEVER, think Neelix. Morn - ok. Never Neelix.

If they ever introduce a faction that lets anyone play as Neelix-people, I will immediately request that the next faction added be whoever the Voyager Baddies were that melted most of the other Neelix-ie people.

But yeah, maybe civilians in general would be a cool addition.
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