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Atrox- purple fighters
Jem carriers- purple fighters AND purple bug
recluse.... nope stuck with the blue fighters... why?
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# 2
02-16-2013, 08:45 AM
The simple answer is that we don't have 3 tiers of Tholian fighters because they weren't originally put in the game when the Tholian Lockbox was released, and now that the Tholian lockbox is done with, they won't bother with updating/adding to it when there are new lockboxes to spend time working on.

That said, as an owner of a Recluse, I certainly think we should have parity with the Jem'Hadar carrier and have some Tholian 2nd tier fighters in the D-Store and 3rd tier fighters available at a T5 science starbase.
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# 3
02-16-2013, 08:46 AM
Reserved for a Tholian reputation system. Just wait and see.
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# 4
02-16-2013, 08:59 AM
It's possible, although it would go against their previous 'special fighters for special carriers' track record. Everyone can get reputation system Scorpion Fighters, but only people with a Kar'Fi can get their Frigates, only Recluse owners can get Tholian Fighters, only Jem'Hadar carrier/HEC owners can get Jem'hadar fighters, etc.,

If everyone can get Tholian fighters from a Tholian rep system, it would just further take away from the Recluse as a special lobi/lockbox ship rather than bringing it up to parity with the other 'special' carriers.
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# 5
02-16-2013, 09:31 AM
most likely it is because, the recluse has a useful console which buffs the fighters, the fighters spam tetryon beams and they have quantum torpedoes so they are pretty much on the level with a splice between a peregrine and a type 10 shuttle. they are purple quality in blue form.
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# 6
02-16-2013, 10:13 AM
Back when the Recluse was first coming out, people compared the Tholian fighters vs others with combat parsers and found that they did less damage than 1st tier Peregrines and that the 2 minute console added negligable damage.

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=360961


It would certainly be nice to have higher tier Tholian fighters available, but as it stands now, the only reason to use them is for the look. Most people that care about damage will have abanded them in favor of Elite Scorpions.
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# 7
02-16-2013, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by viper40watt View Post
It's possible, although it would go against their previous 'special fighters for special carriers' track record. Everyone can get reputation system Scorpion Fighters, but only people with a Kar'Fi can get their Frigates, only Recluse owners can get Tholian Fighters, only Jem'Hadar carrier/HEC owners can get Jem'hadar fighters, etc.,

If everyone can get Tholian fighters from a Tholian rep system, it would just further take away from the Recluse as a special lobi/lockbox ship rather than bringing it up to parity with the other 'special' carriers.
I have a recluse, the other special carriers have purple fighters. I have all but the heavy escort jemmy carrier. I'd just like to compete with my recluse. And console sucks.
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# 8
02-16-2013, 12:43 PM
Would definitely be nice of Cryptic if they did make upgraded Widows, maybe a boost to the TTG console as well.
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# 9
02-16-2013, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by daedalus304 View Post
most likely it is because, the recluse has a useful console which buffs the fighters, the fighters spam tetryon beams and they have quantum torpedoes so they are pretty much on the level with a splice between a peregrine and a type 10 shuttle. they are purple quality in blue form.
I'd hardly call that console useful.

I own the Reclsue and the Carrier itself is the Sickness but its fighters were Jank (not Jem Fighter Jank but jank none the less) and the console does not do much for them at all.

I banked the Widow Fighters and the Console after my 3rd STF run with the Reclsue and never looked back.
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# 10
02-16-2013, 01:35 PM
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Reserved for a Tholian reputation system. Just wait and see.
This probably. Unfortunately if they still use beams instead of cannons without interesting beam abilities (let's say target weapons/engines subsystems and beam overload), the elite version will be as awful as the recluse one.
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