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# 141
01-21-2010, 06:50 PM
Set "Dynamic Lightning" to "off". If this helps, please create a bug report (in game, right from the upper right mini map there is a question mark icon, hit this and there you find "report bug") that states that dyn lightning causes problems. I still insist that the problems derive from a too close NVidia coding (i have a 8800GTS 640 and a 4870, so i am no fanboy of either company), as the Nvidia chips have some hard DirectX flaws and therefore they launched the "Way it is meant to be played" campaign...."helps" companies to get it "right" on a "wrong" card......but causing "wrongs" on a "right" card
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# 142
01-21-2010, 07:14 PM
http://yfrog.com/08screenshot2010012120022j

That is what anti aliasing is doing to my game. Anyone have any suggestions?
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# 143
01-22-2010, 04:12 AM
Card, driver version, settings in CP and in game?!

Mine looks like that:
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8915/stoaa.png
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# 144
01-22-2010, 04:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by martothir View Post
http://yfrog.com/08screenshot2010012120022j

That is what anti aliasing is doing to my game. Anyone have any suggestions?
That looks like your card is massively overheating. OR you have corrupt texture files on your game. Try redownloading it and see if it works.

That is NOT an AA issue at all.
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# 145
01-22-2010, 09:28 AM
Just wanted to drop back by this thread to gloat. Where are all you whiney *****es that said a major game studio couldnt enable AA on ATI cards now? You know who you are.

PS, the improvement in pq with this patch blew me away. there had to have been much more to it than just enabling AA. looks like a completely different game now, not to mention the UI polish.

4870X2 running 9.12 hotfix
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# 146
01-22-2010, 09:35 AM
I think the last patch made the game look much better on my 4870 at home.

But it made the game worse (both visually and performance-wise) on my Nvidia 9600 GSO card at work



Of course, I mostly play at home so I'm not too bothered!
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# 147
01-22-2010, 10:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tedgp123 View Post
That looks like your card is massively overheating. OR you have corrupt texture files on your game. Try redownloading it and see if it works.

That is NOT an AA issue at all.
See, my card is NOT overheating. I have internal sensors, and I'm not getting above 30 degrees Celcius MAX, usually closer to 24 or 25 degrees. And furthermore, when I turned AA off, it looks like this:

http://yfrog.com/elscreenshot2010012210531j

But once again, when I turned 8x AA on in the exact same location, it ends up looking like this:

http://yfrog.com/j7screenshot2010012210533j

So would corrupt texture files look just fine with no AA and messed up with AA? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I genuinely don't know. While I'm pretty good with computers, I don't have any formal training. So if anyone out there has any suggestions, I'm interested in hearing them.

EDIT:

I run an ATI Radeon 5870

Driver Packaging Version 8.66-090918a-089150C-Dell
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
2D Driver Version 8.01.01.961
2D Driver File Path /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/CLASS/{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}/0000
Direct3D Version 8.14.10.0700
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.9017
Catalyst™ Control Center Version 2009.0918.2132.36825
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# 148
01-22-2010, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Crash317 View Post
Just wanted to drop back by this thread to gloat. Where are all you whiney *****es that said a major game studio couldnt enable AA on ATI cards now? You know who you are.

PS, the improvement in pq with this patch blew me away. there had to have been much more to it than just enabling AA. looks like a completely different game now, not to mention the UI polish.

4870X2 running 9.12 hotfix
http://rapidshare.com/files/339395031/star_trek_pic.jpg

Nice pic with everything on max.
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# 149
01-22-2010, 10:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by devilrage
It is so pretty

Can't wait until my new computer arrives, hope it looks like that.
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# 150
01-22-2010, 12:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by martothir View Post
So would corrupt texture files look just fine with no AA and messed up with AA? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I genuinely don't know. While I'm pretty good with computers, I don't have any formal training. So if anyone out there has any suggestions, I'm interested in hearing them.

EDIT:

I run an ATI Radeon 5870

Driver Packaging Version 8.66-090918a-089150C-Dell
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
2D Driver Version 8.01.01.961
2D Driver File Path /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/CLASS/{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}/0000
Direct3D Version 8.14.10.0700
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.9017
Catalyst™ Control Center Version 2009.0918.2132.36825
Well, that's certainly a unique kind of artifacting. One of the things that I've found with Cryptic's engine (and probably other games, too), is that ATI's additional features like Catalyst A.I. and Adaptive Anti-Aliasing can really interfere with the image quality. With Champions Online, I learned that it's best to turn all of those features off and let the in-game engine handle all of the pretty image processing.

Here are my settings:

Anti-Aliasing: Use application settings
Anisotropic Filtering: Use application settings
Catalyst A.I.: Disbled (i.e., the Disable Catalyst A.I. box is checked)
Mipmap Detail Level: Quality
Wait for vertical refresh: Always Off (though I think a game can override that)
Adaptive Anti-Aliasing: Disabled (i.e., the Enable Adaptive Anti-Aliasing box is UNchecked)
OpenGL Settings, Triple buffering: UNchecked

The other thing is that it appears you're running an older driver. I don't know if it's because you're on a 5000-series card, but I'm running the drivers from December 2009:

Driver Packaging Version 8.681-091124a-092499C-ATI
Catalyst™ Version 09.12
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
2D Driver Version 8.01.01.984
2D Driver File Path /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/CLASS/{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}/0000
Direct3D Version 8.14.10.0716
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.9232
Catalyst™ Control Center Version 2009.1124.2131.38610

I'm almost willing to bet that upgrading your drivers AND turning off the extraneous ATI features will fix it.
Otherwise, you may actually have something physically wrong with the card.

Top things that could break physically:
- Improperly seated. Remove the card and plug it back in firmly, verifying that the bottom edge of the card is even with the slot and there is no vertical give when you press down on it.
- Power supply connector. For that matter, make sure you've got a beefy power supply to begin with. I'm not sure on the specs for the 5000-series, but for the 4000-series, they recommend a minimum of 500W.
- Fan failure. Though gauging from your posted temps, that may not be the issue.
- Bad card. Looking at the noise you're getting, I'm wondering if it could be just a bad card with a faulty texture processor. Does this happen in other games?

Hope this helps.
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