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# 61
02-28-2013, 09:51 AM
Puppies and kittens are both cute.

Anyone have any ideas on an item set for a hypothetical Destroyer pack?
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# 62
02-28-2013, 10:30 PM
your presistance will prove futile. Read my thesis.
On the subject of Abramsverse stuff in STO: http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/07...l-rivera-part/
And more reasons against JJ Trek: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiQ9piVgtWM
And even more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REOjxvQPQNQ
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# 63
02-28-2013, 11:00 PM
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So, under these definations, wouldn't the Andorian "Escort" count actually as a destroyer?
Pretty much, yes. Cryptic's classification is very loose. Going purely by names "Destroyers" run the entire range from the Aquarius (basically a Fed BoP with none of the benefits) to the Chimera, which is just short of an Assault Cruiser in terms of size and crew complement.

At the moment I'm willing to cut the Andorian "Escorts" because they are Andorian ships and not strictly Starfleet. They're probably loaners.

They even come with the IGV/IGS prefix so players can roleplay being part of the Andorian Imperial Guard (and being Federation-allied it makes sense that Andorian navy officers would work with Starfleet Command, at least).
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# 64
03-01-2013, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by unangbangkay View Post
Pretty much, yes. Cryptic's classification is very loose. Going purely by names "Destroyers" run the entire range from the Aquarius (basically a Fed BoP with none of the benefits) to the Chimera, which is just short of an Assault Cruiser in terms of size and crew complement.

At the moment I'm willing to cut the Andorian "Escorts" because they are Andorian ships and not strictly Starfleet. They're probably loaners.

They even come with the IGV/IGS prefix so players can roleplay being part of the Andorian Imperial Guard (and being Federation-allied it makes sense that Andorian navy officers would work with Starfleet Command, at least).
I think the Aquarius is a misuse of the term.

As I see it, Destroyers are a Cruiser/Escort hybrid that fall on the Escort side. Dreadnoughts are Escort/Cruiser hybrids that fall on the Cruiser side.

If you play the Andorian ship, you'd see that it's NOT AT ALL tank-y and can't be with the BO stations it gets.

Destroyers need to be tank-y escorts. Which all pretty much are except for the Aquarius.
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# 65
03-01-2013, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by stoleviathan99 View Post
I think the Aquarius is a misuse of the term.

As I see it, Destroyers are a Cruiser/Escort hybrid that fall on the Escort side. Dreadnoughts are Escort/Cruiser hybrids that fall on the Cruiser side.

If you play the Andorian ship, you'd see that it's NOT AT ALL tank-y and can't be with the BO stations it gets.

Destroyers need to be tank-y escorts. Which all pretty much are except for the Aquarius.
Whatever the case, even Star Trek proper has a less than stellar record when it comes to consistency in terms. Remember when people were talking about the Defiant as the first "Warship" Starfleet ever built?

Yeah.

Assuming the Aquarius is an outlier (and it sure seems like it at least), a Destroyer is more like a KDF Raptor, i.e. with power but less maneuverability and slightly more size.

Why? Because some ships that can turn like escorts, like the Mobius, can be VERY tanky when their universal Boff slots and whatnot are taken into account.
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# 66
03-01-2013, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dkeith2011 View Post
Puppies and kittens are both cute.

Anyone have any ideas on an item set for a hypothetical Destroyer pack?
The fdd (apollo class) from sfc, shattered universe and legacy would b my fav. A tmp skin n a 2409 design would b great
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# 67
03-01-2013, 05:08 AM
i wouldnt mind aquarius style destroyers in a pack... but not chimera style.
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Curse you Archived Post.... you stole all my Ideas.
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# 68
03-01-2013, 06:37 AM
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i wouldnt mind aquarius style destroyers in a pack... but not chimera style.
Meaning looks or stats?

If a 3-pack happens I would hope for a new design in the classic Starfleet style. Saucer, secondary hull and nacelles, or at least something close to that considering the modern blended-body fleet style.
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# 69
03-01-2013, 06:44 AM
Or make it a 2409 version of the U.S.S. Kelvin.
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# 70
03-01-2013, 07:46 AM
If you want a Chimera so badly purchase a LTS.

Oh and god no nothing from that horrible movie!
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