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# 41
02-27-2013, 08:33 AM
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Then Cryptic would have the Sale alone, why would PWE need a Sale all across all their games just for one ship...especially when the ships are floating around ESD and STF even when the big bug went down.
Zen sales have always been across the full range of PWE products - how would you even tie them to a single game?

Zen sales also generate more revenue than C-Store ship (or whatever) sales since a ship sale allows players to spend stockpiled Zen and/or Dilithium - a Zen sale requires you to get your wallet out if you want in on it.

And again - brand new, shiny, 5-fore weapon, 5 console ship - it should be selling like crazy - but a mixed reception to the stats (and the bugs) make me think it's not the cash cow they were hoping for this time.

The Zen sale just seems to reinforce that.

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Missing the point entirely. Positive sales figures are perfect opportunities to combine self-congratulations with transparency; show off how people are actually liking things while earning some trust and credibility with the community (things which at present are sorely lacking). Yet the latter appears so antithetical to the way Cryptic operates that it's becoming rabidly self-destructive.
Ah, I see your point - in response I'll merely say 'two million captains' - those are the sort of stats we can expect from Cryptic
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# 42
02-27-2013, 08:35 AM
Typical, I bought the Bortas 3 pack just a few days ago /facepalm...
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# 43
02-27-2013, 08:40 AM
Gotta agree with the chap above. I have saved enough Zen through trading in unused Dilithium and have been eagerly awaiting a sale on the ships. I have no desire to spend more money on a dumbed down version of what was once a really good game. I still enjoy playing but no longer feel the need to pay monthly for x amount of Zen that I cant or wont sell in the store for inflated prices.
I get they need development funds etc but gotta come up with quality to entice people to spend. Only so many times you can start with a new alt and not find your repeating yourself.
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# 44
02-27-2013, 08:45 AM
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Missing the point entirely. Positive sales figures are perfect opportunities to combine self-congratulations with transparency; show off how people are actually liking things while earning some trust and credibility with the community (things which at present are sorely lacking). Yet the latter appears so antithetical to the way Cryptic operates that it's becoming rabidly self-destructive.
This is probably gonna sound like a crazy question, but... why do people feel they need trust and credibility so badly?

I just don't get it. I've never felt a pressing need to have that in my life And that includes this game, as I enjoy it regardless of what's going on
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# 45
02-27-2013, 08:46 AM
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Zen sales have always been across the full range of PWE products - how would you even tie them to a single game?

Zen sales also generate more revenue than C-Store ship (or whatever) sales since a ship sale allows players to spend stockpiled Zen and/or Dilithium - a Zen sale requires you to get your wallet out if you want in on it.

And again - brand new, shiny, 5-fore weapon, 5 console ship - it should be selling like crazy - but a mixed reception to the stats (and the bugs) make me think it's not the cash cow they were hoping for this time.

The Zen sale just seems to reinforce that.

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reception from what the forums, the same people who always complain about lockbox ships, but yet there they are flying around everywhere, right next to the new Escort flying around popping up everywhere.
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# 46 Slightly off topic
02-27-2013, 08:51 AM
I used to smirk when I saw someone say "I just bought Zen!!"

Then it happened to me


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This is probably gonna sound like a crazy question, but... why do people feel they need trust and credibility so badly?

I just don't get it. I've never felt a pressing need to have that in my life And that includes this game, as I enjoy it regardless of what's going on
I totalllllllly agree!!! I just love the game, and I do not mind what is going on. Just keep STO up and running Dstahl PLLLEASE


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# 47
02-27-2013, 09:01 AM
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Stream is listed as one of the partners participating in this promotion. Please check out the article linked in the first post There was a small delay with the Steam promo starting though, and all accounts that purchased a qualifying amount between 3PM PST yesterday and when the promo was activated with Steam a couple hours later has been credited in-game as of last night.

Also, this ZEN promo is not just for STO, it's all games if you look at the different PWE game websites.

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As we've never released data like that before, and I'd like to continue being your Community Manager, that I can not do, understandly. However, the ship is very popular. Very popular indeed

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# 48
02-27-2013, 09:01 AM
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This is probably gonna sound like a crazy question, but... why do people feel they need trust and credibility so badly?

I just don't get it. I've never felt a pressing need to have that in my life And that includes this game, as I enjoy it regardless of what's going on

Because credibility can increase your sales. You think Blizzard has stayed around this long because of luck? Why would you just blindly hand over money without credibility?

A better example, look at my sig (and the link to the interview if you don't believe it) and look at what we have now on New Romulus. You can't trust someone to make a good decision without some credibility.


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I totalllllllly agree!!! I just love the game, and I do not mind what is going on. Just keep STO up and running Dstahl PLLLEASE
There is nothing wrong with liking what you have, but as a paying customer you should at least want the "small" things like timely bug fixes. Without that, you are just forking over money for continued mediocrity.

I can only hope all this money from this sale goes towards the May update and fixing some of the bugs in this game.
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# 49
02-27-2013, 09:05 AM
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Because without credibility you have bozos buying the Eiffel Tower from the corner store sales clerk just because the price seemed nice and the pamphlet looked all pretty; and then getting upset because they were stupid enough to fork over their life savings for a monument thousands of miles away.


A better example, look at my sig (and the link to the interview if you don't believe it) and look at what we have now on New Romulus. You can't trust someone to make a good decision without some credibility.




There is nothing wrong with liking what you have, but as a paying customer you should at least want the "small" things like timely bug fixes. Without that, you are just forking over money for continued mediocrity.

I can only hope all this money from this sale goes towards the May update and fixing some of the bugs in this game.
Actually, being stupid has nothing to do with Credibility, it has to do with being Gullible.
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# 50
02-27-2013, 09:06 AM
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Actually, being stupid has nothing to do with Credibility, it has to do with being Gullible.
Yeah, it was a bad example after I looked at it but stupidity and credibility are related.

Even a stupid person has limits to trust, but are far more trusting of someone that they feel has credibility despite all the evidence to the contrary. So I guess credibility can be subjective.

However, to ask why people need trust and credibility so bad is a pretty ignorant question. One just needs to look at the current state of the US Government to see the answer.

If people trust a game developer/publisher, they will spend money. If people don't, they won't. Not hard to understand that.

And considering the decisions and lack of QA/bug fixes within the past year I have to lean towards not trusting Cryptic with the May update (but my hopes are cautiously optimistic).
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