Lieutenant
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 43
# 11
03-03-2013, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by littlemonchichi View Post
easy math for comparing old and new stf system:

15 normal stf runs before = 1 Borg Ship Set
15 normal stf runs now = 285 Omega Marks

even the console needs 500 Marks....wth

i HATE the reputation system.
stopped playing stf's
i agree with this. glad i got full maco mk xii gear before the change, rep system is a horrendous grind imo. but thats just my opinion. i just roll with the punches, and enjoy playing the game.
Commander
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 336
# 12
03-03-2013, 02:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tangolight View Post
300+ elite stf runs before = 2 Prototype Borg Shield Tech, 0 Engines, 0 Deflectors
25 elite stuf runs now = Full Mark XII MACO set

The reputation system is a huge improvement.
I play more stfs now.
It is better for getting MK XII stuff but it made so many other stuff more difficult time consuming and expensive to get. The Borg Assimilated Module console is no longer a mission reward. You need to complete more STF missions wait longer and spend a lot for a Borg Space set. They need to make the lower grade gear less expensive and easier to get especially the Borg console because making people spend that much for something that was easy to get from completing a single mission is totally unfair BS.
Commander
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 436
# 13
03-03-2013, 06:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tangolight View Post
300+ elite stf runs before = 2 Prototype Borg Shield Tech, 0 Engines, 0 Deflectors
25 elite stuf runs now = Full Mark XII MACO set
This is a textbook case of someone who clearly didn't understand how the system worked. You have *TWO* Borg Shields...none of anything else. Why were you even in the wrong STFs? You do realize that in the old system, you actually had to do and presumably be decent at all of them, not just hammer ISE over and over in the vain hope that something that isn't the shield drops?
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,440
# 14
03-03-2013, 07:13 PM
The old system allowed to potentially only needing to run STFs 3 times for a full set, it might not happened but it was possible.

There was another advantage, the MK XI sets were much easier to come due to tech drops on Elite and the Borg set was much, much cheaper (15 runs total on normal) and end up being brought as a byproduct of all the EDCs we got when looking for Tech drops.

The only problem with the old system was prototype tech drops and the whole random system, the current system allows anyone getting it true but the costs are much, much higher and likely this is because people were starting to stop playing STFs because they had the sets and no real incentive to play then after that .... but the costs are so significant higher the same happens now, people that got the sets simply have no incentives and people that dont look at the costs involved and make decisions, playing roughly 30 STFs for a Set is simply too much and its not as if we could turn BNPs into Omega marks either.
Commander
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 436
# 15
03-03-2013, 07:24 PM
But let's be realistic: I did this on many toons: It was, on average, about 20 runs per piece, so about 5% drop. So we're looking at an average of 60 runs for a full set. More importantly, it was runs of ALL of the STFs. As it stands NOW, most non-ISE things represent dead content....and no matter how many STFs you run, you never get anything.
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