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# 11
03-10-2013, 03:49 PM
Is the andorian ship pack worth 5k zen?

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...=578921&page=4

Exact post people are responding to: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...1&postcount=17

Going to say not any more, no. The wing cannons will now clash with all your other weapon options unless you want to restrict yourself to mk XI guns on your supposed "glass cannon". Minus the cannon part of course.

Buyer beware.
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# 12
03-10-2013, 05:36 PM
Personally I think not, but I absolutely adore the ship. The consoles are novelties that end up being a waste of space. Sure, they're useful, but you have to sacrifice a lot to use them. The +10% accuracy bonus for 2pc set is great, but in all honesty it's not as good as other console options.

I have the 3-pack, ditched the consoles and I've been much better off since!

My advice would be to get the boff layout and design that you prefer, and be happy with just the one.
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# 13
03-10-2013, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gardat View Post
Is the andorian ship pack worth 5k zen?

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...=578921&page=4

Exact post people are responding to: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...1&postcount=17

Going to say not any more, no. The wing cannons will now clash with all your other weapon options unless you want to restrict yourself to mk XI guns on your supposed "glass cannon". Minus the cannon part of course.

Buyer beware.
This^^

Beware, if you want to use the consoles, you have to also use the wing cannons for them to work.
The problem with this is, you will then be restricted to PHASER WEAPONS ONLY to match the phaser wing cannons.
You could simply not bother to use the consoles, but then what bother to get the pack in the first place?

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# 14
03-10-2013, 07:22 PM
I'd say if you're interested in the Andorian ship, get the 3-pack.

I've been testing out different builds and the 3-console synergy with the Wing Cannon Platforms definitely boost your damage output considerably.

BUT

In spite of the recent buff to the Wing Cannon Platform hitpoints, they're still nearly as squishy as mines and quite easily blow up from mines, torps or even simply being within 3km of a destroyed target.

Secondly, you sacrifice a lot of survivability for those 3-consoles.

Otherwise, you could build the Andorian like a regular escort with either 4 cannons and a torp or 5 cannons but the turnrate is generally subpar and very difficult to keep a target in your forward firing arc. Your survivability maybe higher but it doesn't really account for much if you're not doing much damage.



Overall, I'd say it's a pretty balanced ship. A true Glass Cannon.

If you're not willing to accept that, then the Andorian Escort is not for you.
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# 15
03-10-2013, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gardat View Post
Is the andorian ship pack worth 5k zen?

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...=578921&page=4

Exact post people are responding to: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...1&postcount=17

Going to say not any more, no. The wing cannons will now clash with all your other weapon options unless you want to restrict yourself to mk XI guns on your supposed "glass cannon". Minus the cannon part of course.

Buyer beware.
There talking about the d-store weapons not the wing cannons on the ship. Teh d-store andorain weapons are normal dhc etc.

Again they are NOT talking about the wing cannons console just the D-store ones... though the nerf is kinda bs to people who payed the 22k+ dil. per weapon from the d-store
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# 16
03-10-2013, 08:14 PM
i bought the 3 pack bundle, i flew all 3 ships with different settings and different captains.

the consoles are to weak and if the whole server would get a rollback,
i would buy just 1 andorian ship again, but not the bundle.

right now its no comparison to
invincible shield + some other boni - vesta bundle
much needed turn rate + boosts - oddysey bundle
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# 17
03-10-2013, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by razhgal View Post
i bought the 3 pack bundle, i flew all 3 ships with different settings and different captains.

the consoles are to weak and if the whole server would get a rollback,
i would buy just 1 andorian ship again, but not the bundle.

right now its no comparison to
invincible shield + some other boni - vesta bundle
much needed turn rate + boosts - oddysey bundle
Ya cuase a 100k+ aoe hit from the phaser overload is sooo weak.... Sorry your builds must be messed up or something..
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# 18
03-11-2013, 05:22 AM
If you're a completionist or think you might buy more than one ship, get the bundle. Personally though I'd say get a specific ship instead.

The consoles aren't at all bad, those that complain about them just want an iWin button.
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# 19
03-11-2013, 05:38 AM
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Ya cuase a 100k+ aoe hit from the phaser overload is sooo weak.... Sorry your builds must be messed up or something..

no mister. my dps gets lowered with a 100k shot every 2 minutes.

if the aoe would be larger or the enemy ships would be kind enough to fly closer to each other or a rift would bond them more often together,
yea then i'll change my build maybe.
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# 20
03-11-2013, 06:39 AM
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no mister. my dps gets lowered with a 100k shot every 2 minutes.

if the aoe would be larger or the enemy ships would be kind enough to fly closer to each other or a rift would bond them more often together,
yea then i'll change my build maybe.
you must be just running estf's... the amount of aoe damage it does can be the diffrence of getting 1st or 2nd in fleet actions. On gorn mine field the ships in the back that pats in phase 2 i have 1 shot the whole group solo and I do it almost every match.

In pvp it can throw a player into a 100% defense do to the burst on them. The shield breaker is great for tac cubes and I have 1 shot normal cubes in estfs useing overload (granted that was blowing all my cool downs as well as having a team mate sensor scan it.)

The drones are added dps and with the 3 set its almost the same damage as having a extra dhc on the ship. Its pretty easy to check there damage if you want to test it by doing a flat test with only the wing cannons and drones active and having a friend willing to sit there and let you auto fire and do csv and crf on them and look at the total damage numbers.

Tell me what are you useing thats upping your dps so much in your sci and eng slots, I'm running 3 set consols, the borg uni, 1 net. armor mk12 and 4x phaser relays mk 11 vr's. In a full cannon load out, with wing phasers, quads, 3x dhc mk12, 2 mk 12 turrets and a cutting beam.

I have tested the damage between that and running my HEC and Mobis Destoryer and the andorain does more damage simple as that.
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