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# 11
03-10-2013, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by travelingmaster View Post
Nah, just sayin' that if you want to fly awesome, damage-dealing cruisers, go join the KDF. They have cruisers that are meant for that role.
The KDF side also has much better ships for dealing damage than its cruisers. Escorts online infects the KDF as much as the federation. So all these folks tempted to switch sides, should maybe be told the virtues of flying a Bird of Prey, a Raptor or a Siege Destroyer. They'll grind through their reputation and marks and dilithium that much faster.
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# 12
03-10-2013, 02:44 PM
My Odyssey kicks plenty of nacelle. However, I do have several KDF characters as well and while I LOOOOOVE how the Vor'Cha looks (ALWAYS HAVE) my Bortasqu' is a wonderfully vicious and invincible beast that I cannot give up for one.
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# 13
03-10-2013, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by travelingmaster View Post
Do you fly Federation cruisers, and feel that they don't have the umph you want? Would you like to fly cruisers that can turn and DPS reasonably well? Had enough of arguing about it on the forums? Would you like to leave your lumbering space whales behind?

Then join the ranks of the great and glorious KDF! Join us, and gain access to our Vor'cha, Negh'var, Tor'kaht, and K't'inga class battlecruisers! Equipped with cannons, turning ability, and awesome cloaks, these bad boys will satisfy your every desire for tanking and DPSing in a cruiser-level ship!

Sign up now, and bathe in glory! *

* Offer not applicable to members of the homo-sapiens only club. No tribbles allowed.
I actually would, in fact because of exactly those reasons you are mentioning.
Cryptic turned Starfleet ships into big target practices, with no means of fighting back. They turned Starfleet practically into a Escort Fleet, just because of their own preferences.
The Federation/Starfleet behaves more like the Peacekeepers in Farscape and almost even looks like them.

So (in STO) Starfleet lost completely it's appeal to me. If i wanted to fly small nimble space-jetfighters i would surely play some other game for sure.


The problem is the extreme RED KDF UI gets me some serious headarche after 20 minutes of playing.
So until there is a sollution for this, i hardly will play much on KDF side.

-> -> -> STO players unite and say NO to ARC <- <- <-
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# 14
03-10-2013, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by travelingmaster View Post
Do you fly Federation cruisers, and feel that they don't have the umph you want? Would you like to fly cruisers that can turn and DPS reasonably well? Had enough of arguing about it on the forums? Would you like to leave your lumbering space whales behind?
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# 15
03-10-2013, 04:06 PM
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I am kind of pleased with my 7,5k DPS and 3 TacCubes tanking Ody.

Going to the KDF is like joining the Empire, Bayern M?nchen, Barcelona/Real Madrid. You can go to the OP faction, but its more fun to steamroll them with your UP ships.

And for all who think Fed Cruisers are UP, my signature gives you the answer.
Here, here.

If you're not doing at least 5K with a cruiser, shoot the Captain.
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# 16
03-10-2013, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by emacsheadroom View Post
Confirming the op admits KDF cruisers are the awesome ships that Fed cruisers should have also been.
^This.

Whenever the OP of Klingon ships are discussed in forum and it is recommended that Fed ships share the same OP stats, the response is always, "That would remove the uniqueness of the Klingon Faction."

So "Uniqueness" = "OP."

I agree that Fed Cruiser should be equivalent to Klingon Cruisers and that should bring them into more balance with the Escorts.

And I'm an Escort pilot.
If your post is anything like, "I have a sandwich so you can't be starving" it's time to rethink posting.

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# 17
03-10-2013, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by woodwhity View Post
I am kind of pleased with my 7,5k DPS and 3 TacCubes tanking Ody.

Going to the KDF is like joining the Empire, Bayern M?nchen, Barcelona/Real Madrid. You can go to the OP faction, but its more fun to steamroll them with your UP ships.
At least their opponents have legs to play.

In my experience, when flying SOME Starfleet Cruisers you can leave your weapons at home, it doesn't matter, lol.



... but your Bayern Muenchen example is kind of scaring but noteworthy...




The problem is in my eyes, Starfleet Cruisers are too passive and Escorts are way to fast-paced.
I have tried the Mobius but flying it is just as fast paced as an Escort. I just hate to fly around in some Jetfighter spaceship.
So, there is nothing really between Cruiser and Escorts IMO.

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# 18
03-10-2013, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by virusdancer View Post
Just don't play KDF expecting to run Sci.
lol, I did just that! When rolling my KDF I thought to myself "What profession will probably be the least taken?" So I chose Sci. I have a excuse... I made the toon back when STO launched. Never figured KDF would never get any Sci ships...

I had to buy the Varanus & Korath lockbox ship to get a decent sci ships.

It's lvl 50 and I'm too lazy to level another KDF.
Sometimes I think I play STO just to have stuff to rant about on the forums!

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# 19
03-10-2013, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by yreodred View Post
I actually would, in fact because of exactly those reasons you are mentioning.
Cryptic turned Starfleet ships into big target practices, with no means of fighting back. They turned Starfleet practically into a Escort Fleet, just because of their own preferences.
The Federation/Starfleet behaves more like the Peacekeepers in Farscape and almost even looks like them.

So (in STO) Starfleet lost completely it's appeal to me. If i wanted to fly small nimble space-jetfighters i would surely play some other game for sure.


The problem is the extreme RED KDF UI gets me some serious headarche after 20 minutes of playing.
So until there is a sollution for this, i hardly will play much on KDF side.
Agreed. The red UI is a problem, and hopefully one that they'll address by May.
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# 20
03-10-2013, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by thlaylierah View Post
^This.

Whenever the OP of Klingon ships are discussed in forum and it is recommended that Fed ships share the same OP stats, the response is always, "That would remove the uniqueness of the Klingon Faction."

So "Uniqueness" = OP."

I agree that Fed Cruiser should be equivalent to Klingon Cruisers and that should bring them into more balance with the Escorts.

And I'm an Escort pilot.
No, 'uniqueness' = 'not having factions that are carbon-copies of one another'.

As I've said before: The Federation gets the edge when it comes to escorts (and don't tell me you don't have an edge there. . .you effing do) and science ships. The KDF gets the battlecruisers.

If you folks want the awesomeness of KDF battlecruisers, you had best start loudly advocating that the KDF be given 5-tac console escorts/raptors, more flexible raptors, and a science ship class. Otherwise, you're just unbalancing the game by giving the Federation MORE toys while taking uniqueness from the KDF.

Either that, or join the KDF! We're always welcome to new warrior in our ranks.
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