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# 1 Subterfuge
03-01-2013, 01:12 PM
It seems that the damage boost gained from decloaking does not stack, but the +Stealth rating does stack.

+4,976 Stealth and 1 single DHC goes from 1,180 DPS to 1,357 DPS upon decloaking with no Subterfuge BOffs.

+5,712 Stealth, same DHC goes from 1,180 DPS to 1,535 DPS upon decloaking with 1 Superior Subterfuge BOff.

+6,457 Stealth, same DHC goes from 1,180 DPS to 1,535 DPS upon decloaking with 2 Superior Subterfuge BOffs.

Fix this so I don't feel like getting 1 Sci and 1 Engi is a waste of my precious Credit and Dilithium when I could have gotten another Romulan Tac for Covert and boosted my Crit.
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Career Officer
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 108
# 2
03-11-2013, 08:04 PM
Curious about this as well. Is this an intended limitation? Or is it a bug. Do they stack now?
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,122
# 3
03-12-2013, 10:21 AM
Ultimately, it will not stack after they implement the changes on Tribble to Holodeck.

From the March 8 Tribble server notes:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=579331

Also, according to Borticus (from the same thread):
Quote:
Originally Posted by borticuscryptic View Post
Just so everyone understands: The Ambush bonus from Subterfuge has never stacked. Hence it being labeled as "UNIQUE" on the bridge officer.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...1&postcount=43


Plus side, you can get a pretty nice bonus to Defense. If you grab all purple Subterfuge BOFFs (including the Tactical ones), you can get 18.75% Defense added on a 5 BOFF ship.

If you have Elusive, you're getting 28.75% Defense with just sitting still. Add an Elite Fleet Positron Deflector Dish, and you'll most likely get 30%+. Throw on the Aegis Hyper-Impulse, and you're up to 35%+. If you're flying around, you're looking at 105% Defense at full impulse.

I'm pretty excited for this, and am willing to give up the Operative trait for the HUGE defense boost that Subterfuge has.

Last edited by shookyang; 03-12-2013 at 10:24 AM.
Captain
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 3,465
# 4
03-12-2013, 10:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shookyang View Post
Ultimately, it will not stack after they implement the changes on Tribble to Holodeck.

From the March 8 Tribble server notes:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=579331

Also, according to Borticus (from the same thread):

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...1&postcount=43


Plus side, you can get a pretty nice bonus to Defense. If you grab all purple Subterfuge BOFFs (including the Tactical ones), you can get 18.75% Defense added on a 5 BOFF ship.

If you have Elusive, you're getting 28.75% Defense with just sitting still. Add an Elite Fleet Positron Deflector Dish, and you'll most likely get 30%+. Throw on the Aegis Hyper-Impulse, and you're up to 35%+. If you're flying around, you're looking at 105% Defense at full impulse.

I'm pretty excited for this, and am willing to give up the Operative trait for the HUGE defense boost that Subterfuge has.
Speaking from personal experience, for PvE it's not going to be as good as you think. I've got a build that can maintain 120% defense permanently. You're still going to get hit quite a bit.
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