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# 1 Is the D'Kora EMP OP?
03-14-2013, 03:00 AM
The D'kora I was fighting uses EMP every 40 seconds, when caught it drops power to all systems to 30 for 10 seconds, then depending on your settings several more seconds before full power level is recovered. To me this ability is massively OP and if there were more D'Kora's using it I am sure there would be more calls for a nerf. I should add the player was popping Aux batteries and using high Aux to increase the effect, I do not know what the standard base effect is supposed to be.

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Rihannsu
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# 2
03-14-2013, 03:15 AM
The EMP cd is 3min, what you have seen is a known exploit. I know because without intending to, i took it into the queues as well a couple of days ago. Stuff like this can happen, given the QnA experience we all enjoy from Cryptic.

Needless to say, my D'kora is back at spacedock for the time being.

Repro steps and stuff has been send to cryptic.

EMP is not OP on a 3min cd, you also have to go inot the much sluggier defensive mode to use it. It is OP, on a 30s cd, but that one is bugged.
Its a great cc ability, i just wish there was a corresponding sci BO thingie.

just a friendly heads up: Discussing the details of an exploit breaks the forum rules, so pleas don't post any more details.
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Last edited by havam; 03-14-2013 at 03:27 AM.
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# 3
03-14-2013, 03:21 AM
Considering most people would be flying the DKora in battle mode for increased manouverability & weapons power, and the rarity and price of the marauder it is one of the few cruisers capable of using dual cannons.

The cause of your grief lies in the Battle Module
EMP Burst
Reduces Power Levels and Power Transfer
Reduces all subsystem max energy to 30 for 6.7 sec
Reduces Power Transfer Rate by 66% for 30 sec
Reduces effectiveness of Power Transfer Rate buffs by 90% for 30 sec
Prevents the use of batteries for 30 sec

Good ships that dont rely on popping batteries & stuff all the time can take this, and i know plenty of PvP'rs dont have much issues countering this, but in an arranged group, this is one incredibly powerfull ability.
But nowhere near as overpowered as the tanking this game gives to squishy escorts vs any other ship type currently.

Name of the game, dont expect the backside of a D'Kora to be its weak spot as with all the other cruisers.
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# 4
03-14-2013, 04:56 AM
Thanks for the heads up guys, I wasn't aware it was an exploit as it is one of the few ships I have never tried. Indeed it is most powerful and indeed it is OP with a 30sec CD although my opponent told me it was 40 sec. He still died but my god it took forever and two of us to take him down.
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# 5
03-14-2013, 05:53 AM
Just use Engi Team, fixes that right away.
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# 6
03-14-2013, 07:41 AM
Its OP.

Its like a siphon carrier effect but different. hahaha
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# 7
03-14-2013, 07:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by havam View Post
The EMP cd is 3min, what you have seen is a known exploit. I know because without intending to, i took it into the queues as well a couple of days ago. Stuff like this can happen, given the QnA experience we all enjoy from Cryptic.

Needless to say, my D'kora is back at spacedock for the time being.

Repro steps and stuff has been send to cryptic.

EMP is not OP on a 3min cd, you also have to go inot the much sluggier defensive mode to use it. It is OP, on a 30s cd, but that one is bugged.
Its a great cc ability, i just wish there was a corresponding sci BO thingie.

just a friendly heads up: Discussing the details of an exploit breaks the forum rules, so pleas don't post any more details.
Is it actually an exploit?

The guy I ran into that was busting them out left and right was using Aux 2 Batt. I figured that would significantly nuke it's CD.
The first we heard of getting new PvP maps "soon" was in August of 2010. We're consistently told something will be coming with the "next" update. Absolutely nothing has come to PvP since launch.

I think it's finally time Cryptic stopped stringing us along, don't you?
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# 8
03-14-2013, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by praxi5 View Post
Is it actually an exploit?

To my knowledge, the power in question is supposed be strictly limited to BOFF power cooldowns and not console powers, etc.


Last edited by ussultimatum; 03-14-2013 at 08:55 AM.
Rihannsu
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# 9
03-14-2013, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ussultimatum View Post
/snip
for once we agree on something.

Nothing in game should lower the CD of ship abilities like EMP.

Wells consoles on time-ship is the exception, but works only on the two time ships afaik. the missiles you get every 3min on the D;kora in offensive mode don't seem to be affected. But i haven't run proper tests, after seeing what happened to emp.

This is clearly borked, let's hope they fix it.
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Last edited by havam; 03-14-2013 at 08:54 AM.
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# 10
03-14-2013, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by havam View Post
for once we agree on something.

Nothing in game should lower the CD of ship abilities like EMP.

Wells consoles on time-ship is the exception, but works only on the two time ships afaik. the missiles you get every 3min on the D;kora in offensive mode don't seem to be affected. But i haven't run proper tests, after seeing what happened to emp.

This is clearly borked, let's hope they fix it.

I've edited my post to be a bit less clear.


There is actually another incidence of interaction with the power in question and a particular special ship console having it's CD reduced which is also broken.

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