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# 11
03-15-2013, 01:17 AM
mustafatennick - That's wonderful if you actually know the stealthed vessel is actually there before he appears oh what a shocker! If I knew he was there I would use my de-stealth ability but sadly one that just sits back and exploits the tiny fighting area to his advantage will never be killed in any way shape or form. If you think you can react in less then 0.5 secs of a stealthed vessel appearing on your rear and able to save yourself its obvious that you yourself fly stealth ships and must understand how freaking easy it is to exploit stealth in this game and believe me I know because I play both sides and know exactly what a stealth ship is capable of doing and if one can't see you before you hit they are dead regardless of what they do because its impossible to save yourself when your shields are gone in 1 sec and then 2 secs you have fully suited abilities being used on you. You sir are the joke and probably exploit these exact same tactics. Use some of that brain to think for a sec that the little tiny battle arena you all fight in is the only place your vessel can travel. Let me tell you its not the only place and in fact very easy to get around by just going on the outside perimeter of the map and flying there. It's what most people do when trying to flank properly in this game without being noticed.

hurleybird - You got anything constructive to say or do you just enjoy trolling because that's exactly what you're doing right now.

Last edited by inosaska; 03-15-2013 at 01:20 AM.
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# 12
03-15-2013, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by inosaska View Post
mustafatennick - That's wonderful if you actually know the stealthed vessel is actually there before he appears oh what a shocker! If I knew he was there I would use my de-stealth ability but sadly one that just sits back and exploits the tiny fighting area to his advantage will never be killed in any way shape or form. If you think you can react in less then 0.5 secs of a stealthed vessel appearing on your rear and able to save yourself its obvious that you yourself fly stealth ships and must understand how freaking easy it is to exploit stealth in this game and believe me I know because I play both sides and know exactly what a stealth ship is capable of doing and if one can't see you before you hit they are dead regardless of what they do because its impossible to save yourself when your shields are gone in 1 sec and then 2 secs you have fully suited abilities being used on you. You sir are the joke and probably exploit these exact same tactics. Use some of that brain to think for a sec that the little tiny battle arena you all fight in is the only place your vessel can travel. Let me tell you its not the only place and in fact very easy to get around by just going on the outside perimeter of the map and flying there. It's what most people do when trying to flank properly in this game without being noticed.

hurleybird - You got anything constructive to say or do you just enjoy trolling because that's exactly what you're doing right now.
First of all I have 6 characters kdf side and 2 fed I pvp on both

If you sit there in one place like a moron a bop will shut you down easily if you keep movin It makes their job harder a lot harder I play both sides too and I know

Second of all it takes around 3 seconds for any alpha to happen trust I know ie seen the best at it and those torps coming at you take three seconds to hit trust me I've counted them many many times

If you can't initiate your defences in that time then the only thing that needs removing from pvp is you

Thirdly the only troll here is you!

Fourth matter of business is if cloak play is so easy why then every match isnt it 5 bops onto 5 whatever no it isn't because it isn't easy just like stopping an alpha isn't that easy

However if you practice and work at it you'll get it you have a massive advantage there called speakers turn them on you'll hear them de cloaking have your rsp on a mouse button or something

Now last of all use your tiny puny little pain in the ar*e of a brain stop coming on here say ban this ban that and learn how to play properly


Do you think those that keep blowing you up got that good instantly no they didn't ask them they'll tell you it takes years

That's the last bit of advice I'm giving you I'm normally happy to help anyone who needs help but not when they come on and spout stuff like this

Now get back in your hole you troll
----=====This is my opinion you don't have to listen and no one else has to read them these "OPINIONS" are based on my exploits and my learning other people will have their opinions and that's fine just don't knock my way of doing things thanks=====----
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# 13
03-15-2013, 10:27 AM
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You cant see me
Nonni nonni booboo
You cant see me
Boo
You can't see me? Bitemepwe is...John Cena!
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K D F - The evul way to play Sto

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# 14
03-15-2013, 10:50 AM
OK...look, Fed comrade...I know, the evul Klinguns are very skilled players who fight with powerful KDF spamming and sucking Carriers and with the awesome and elusive Bops, but believe me...if you want to exclude them from the PvP you're telling everyone that you're just a butthurted noob.
Please, don't whine anymore and instead check your build and gear and keybinds or macros...you can do better than you think against the bad guys!
Imagine you alone at Ker'rat...you're looking for an enemy Vo'quv or Kar'fi...Adm. Quinn has ordered to vaporize these terrific KDF ships...you are aware that around these capital vessels Bops and Raptors are cloaking around ready to destroy every Fed so crazy to dare an attack...but you anyway do this...you want to prove that you're not afraid to die fighting against all odds...and when you vaporize that big and ugly and evul vessel and you can also escape the retaliation...well...you feel great, you feel power, you feel how satisfying can be succesfully combat against the evul Empire!
K D F - Killing Disadvantaged Feds
K D F - The evul way to play Sto

Adm. Marcus orders: Punish the evul Klinguns! Punish the evul HOBOs! And nuclearize Qo'nos once and for all!
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# 15
03-15-2013, 11:19 AM
The problem I have with this post is

If te OP had come on and said look I'm useless every time I go into a pvp against the Klingons I get my fed hind handed to me every time

I bet there would have been a que out the door of people willing to help and I would have been at the front with what I have learnt my knowledge being right or wrong I would have given it willingly

So instead the guy comes on and says ban cloaks - this is a Klingons bread and butter not just for alphas but our ships give up certain things to have cloaks the devs have given Feds numerous ways of combating against them some would argue too many

Then he says ban carriers - this is why I love the kdf so much the voquv truly is one of my real life hobbys (yeah sad I know but who cares) I love nothing more than being the capital ship being the command unit for my pets this makes me smile and many other kdf this ship is not out of balance it doesn't come at you like a snarling Rottweiler like a bug it doesn't spin around like a defiant or a bop and have you dizzy chances are if not geared right it is the easy kill so why the f does it need a ban

He is clearly sore after a kdf buttf***ing I took per 1000 fed buttf***ngs before I got to the stage I'm at now practice makes perfect is the phrase that personifies STO

I don't brag that I'm brilliant in any way neither is my advice the be all and end all but I like to help people when I can but haters I will not help especially when they won't help themselves

Not do I use bugs but those things are not bugs they are probably two of the most balanced things in game
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# 16
03-15-2013, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by inosaska View Post
mustafatennick - That's wonderful if you actually know the stealthed vessel is actually there before he appears oh what a shocker! If I knew he was there I would use my de-stealth ability but sadly one that just sits back and exploits the tiny fighting area to his advantage will never be killed in any way shape or form. If you think you can react in less then 0.5 secs of a stealthed vessel appearing on your rear and able to save yourself its obvious that you yourself fly stealth ships and must understand how freaking easy it is to exploit stealth in this game and believe me I know because I play both sides and know exactly what a stealth ship is capable of doing and if one can't see you before you hit they are dead regardless of what they do because its impossible to save yourself when your shields are gone in 1 sec and then 2 secs you have fully suited abilities being used on you. You sir are the joke and probably exploit these exact same tactics. Use some of that brain to think for a sec that the little tiny battle arena you all fight in is the only place your vessel can travel. Let me tell you its not the only place and in fact very easy to get around by just going on the outside perimeter of the map and flying there. It's what most people do when trying to flank properly in this game without being noticed.

hurleybird - You got anything constructive to say or do you just enjoy trolling because that's exactly what you're doing right now.
calm down.

There are a few things you need to use when you're fighting one of...well...us.

Two in particular, and they don't cost any Zen to get (in fact, you probably already have them unless you're a member of the Deaf community.)

Ears.

Cloaking, De-Cloaking, Buffs, all make sounds. If you turn the musak and ambient sound off and focus on listening for those sounds, you will find that, you-TOO can 'spot' a BoP before she decloaks, that you TOO can catch the characteristic noise of a Tac team being activated, or an attack pattern, or weapons buff.

When that's happening in 'empty' space, you KNOW there's a BoP. Simple geometry (doesn't even require paper to work out) will tell you what direction you need to be looking right after those sounds touch your ears-some directions have less firepower inherently than others, and few KDF will come at you from the front on a decloak.

Common sense should THEN tell you that you need to hit your shield buffs, rsf, or hit Evasive, it should ALSO tell you to get back in your fedball, where your buddies can, if not heal you, avenge you with expeditious speed.

You are a FED, you should NEVER fly alone-Feds that fly off by themselves have a name in KDF circles:

Targets of opportunity.
"when you're out of Birds of Prey, you're out of ships."
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# 17
03-15-2013, 12:24 PM
Yeah...Fedball means protection and safety...you see, the evul Klinguns are natural born killers, they are ruthless predators and we Feds are their preys, we're like sheep in the flock and they are hungry wolves but...when you think you're ready go out that damned Fedball and show them that you aren't afraid to die!
K D F - Killing Disadvantaged Feds
K D F - The evul way to play Sto

Adm. Marcus orders: Punish the evul Klinguns! Punish the evul HOBOs! And nuclearize Qo'nos once and for all!
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# 18
03-15-2013, 12:25 PM
I'm a gamer not federation or klingon but a gamer. You all sadly miss the point with cloak. Everytime I queue for Arena it's either my teammates stop spawning or they quit and never able to finish a game or have fun. The only fun I get is out of playing as klingon for pvp because quiet frank most federation players suck at pvp. Telling me I don't know what I'm doing and thinking im imbecile is quiet frankly stupid of you and makes you look really dumb.

The thing with cloak is it just makes the game completely unfun for federation side since most of the them are usually only geared for pve and skills set up for pve. When it starts to make players leave pvp and stop spawning then it just means that its high time its removed from being usable in pvp. I don't know why some pvpers just enjoy killing the enjoyment of the game.

To me I would rather have my opponents stick around and get some enjoyment instead killing the pvp and possibly shrinking it to point that your facing the same people over and over and over which gets really dull.
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# 19
03-15-2013, 12:35 PM
The real problem is that Fed Cruisers suck...so if you wanna be Kirk I'm sorry...this game is not like the real well known Star Trek...
Soooo...the evul Klinguns have the best spamming and sucking Carriers, the most powerful Battle Cruisers, the awesome Bops...what does this mean?
It means you can't fight alone...only the best and well organized Fed teams can win against the evuls...but if you want to surprise them do something unexpected...and if you succeed...life is good!
K D F - Killing Disadvantaged Feds
K D F - The evul way to play Sto

Adm. Marcus orders: Punish the evul Klinguns! Punish the evul HOBOs! And nuclearize Qo'nos once and for all!
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# 20
03-15-2013, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by inosaska View Post
I'm a gamer not federation or klingon but a gamer. You all sadly miss the point with cloak. Everytime I queue for Arena it's either my teammates stop spawning or they quit and never able to finish a game or have fun. The only fun I get is out of playing as klingon for pvp because quiet frank most federation players suck at pvp. Telling me I don't know what I'm doing and thinking im imbecile is quiet frankly stupid of you and makes you look really dumb.

The thing with cloak is it just makes the game completely unfun for federation side since most of the them are usually only geared for pve and skills set up for pve. When it starts to make players leave pvp and stop spawning then it just means that its high time its removed from being usable in pvp. I don't know why some pvpers just enjoy killing the enjoyment of the game.

To me I would rather have my opponents stick around and get some enjoyment instead killing the pvp and possibly shrinking it to point that your facing the same people over and over and over which gets really dull.
Look I really don't know what your on about

If Feds are coming into pvp with pve setup that's their lookout

A bop is designed to hit and run it has 22-24k hull a shield modifier equivalent of a shuttle it is not designed to stick around and go toe to toe with most ships

Your barking up the wrong tree your boat has sailed massively in the wrong direction get off the forum and stop trolling

Fed side don't respawn because statistically they have more leachers it has nothing o do with cloak, carriers, the size of a lollipop
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