Ensign
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 7
Hello, I'm currently flying on Assault Cruiser Retrofit, and tanking on it. Its nice ship, does hes job pretty well. I dont like flying in escorts (as tac captain in alt char), tried and didnt like it. I like beams etc, but i would like to try out different ship. I can buy JHHEC, but before i spend so much money for it, I'm wondering: can this ship tank? Isn't it too squishy? And will it be any good with beams? Or Dual (Heavy?) Cannos are only weapons to go? What build would be good for it? Any advice?
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,671
# 2
03-18-2013, 09:37 AM
It's still an escort. If you don't like flying escorts, you probably still won't like the JH HEC. It has a lot higher health than a standard escort, but compared to an Assault Cruiser Refit, the difference in officer seating prevents it from being quite as durable.

DHCs are considered "the only way to go" because they outperform all other weapons in the game.
Republic Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,986
# 3
03-18-2013, 10:20 AM
It seems to be a very good tanking Escort, second only to the Attack Ship itself. Another choice would be the Steamrunner which has more tactical potential without sacrificing too much tanking. Science however suffers, I wouldn't want to be in PvP with only an ensign sci skill.

If you dislike DHCs, try cannons or dual beams as a halfway house.
Ensign
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 7
# 4
03-18-2013, 11:38 AM
Yep, i was thinking about Dual Beam Banks, - nice DPS, nice animation and 90* arc. But what about rest, like BOffs?
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,400
# 5
03-18-2013, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by nazwawyswietlana View Post
Hello, I'm currently flying on Assault Cruiser Retrofit, and tanking on it. Its nice ship, does hes job pretty well. I dont like flying in escorts (as tac captain in alt char), tried and didnt like it. I like beams etc, but i would like to try out different ship. I can buy JHHEC, but before i spend so much money for it, I'm wondering: can this ship tank? Isn't it too squishy? And will it be any good with beams? Or Dual (Heavy?) Cannos are only weapons to go? What build would be good for it? Any advice?
I'm assuming this is for PvE, so take this advice as such.


Ok, let's start off with some basics.


1) Assault Cruiser Refit

Survivability factors:

Base Hull = 39,000
Shield Mod = 1
Eng consoles = 4
CMD Eng Station
Lt Eng Station
Lt Uni Station (should usually be Sci)

2) JHHEC

Survivability factors:

Base Hull = 37,500
Shield Mod = 1
Eng consoles = 4
Ltc Eng Station
Lt Eng Station
Lt Uni Station (should usually be Sci)
Ens Sci Station


As you can see the two are extremely close.

For straight tanking, I'll give a slight edge to the AC-R (although the JHHEC's maneuverability gives it some advantages even in pve).

If you plan to use beams, then don't use this ship. In STO PvE there is no reason you would ever choose to use beams over DHCs on any shiip that can slot DHCs and also has a turn rate above 8. (Even 6 is semi-doable, but its more hassle than its worth most of the time).

So the slight tanking advantage goes to the AC-R, but the firepower advantage for the JHHEC makes it the significantly better choice for raw DPS.



That doesn't mean you need to run out and spend cash or millions for the JHHEC, if you're happy in your AC-R and all you do is PvE then save your money and fly the ship you're already enjoying.

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