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# 1 The Space Sets
03-18-2013, 09:38 AM
I've got four characters I'm playing with at the moment; two Engineers (one FED, and one KDF) along with two other FED characters, one a Tactical and the other, Science.

End Game (at least for me) is only likely to be one ship; it's rare that I'll switch through ships for variation, I tend to pick one, set it up so that it works nice, and use it. As such, I don't really want to be wasting resources unnecessarily.

Currently, the only costly set I own is the Aegis one, and I'm planning to put that on a Science Ship. I've also got the Breen Set which is on my Chel Grett, and the Jem Hadar Set (Mk XI) which is on my Jem Hadar Escort. I just figured that would be... practical. I don't own a Reman or Romulan ship yet, so haven't worked on those sets.

Anyway, it seems to be the general census that the Omega Set works better for Tactical players, whilst the MACO set works better for Engineering players; least that's what I've primarily been told by various people throughout chat.

The Omega Set (provided the above be true) is fair deal. What I wish to discuss though are the sets for an Engineering Cruiser. Firstly you've got the Assimilated Borg Set (which could work equally well for a Science or Engineering toon), then you've got the MACO Space Set, and then you've got the Adapted MACO Set (which could work well for an Engineering or Tactical toon).

In short, I'm at a bit of a loss which Set to get. Suggestions and Feedback are welcome.
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# 2
03-18-2013, 09:46 AM
wiki - your good friend

http://www.stowiki.org/Set

for me, it is like this:

KHG - + torpedo and mine dmg, good SCI skills (lovely for a KDF sci in a torp boat)

BORG set - allrounder

BREEN - yeah, no.

Jem'Hadar - yeah, nice 3set power - standard for new VA toons

AEGIS, Omega - if you have nothing else, it is not bad

MACO - standard FED energy weapons set

Romulan/Reman - easy to get and shiny set boosting sci abilities for FED'S which have no profit from KHG/adapted MACO

overall, my engi in D'Kora uses the Borg set and is very happy with it. my other FED toons have their MACO, any my main - KDF sci in torpedo boat LOVES her KHG MK XII with +crit BOFFs, DOFFs and consoles ..

i am experimenting with the breen set now, as everybody and their cousins are now using the Jem'Hadar and polarons in PVP and STF's, and the Breen set has Polaron resistance. I would advise you to grind BOTH Jem'Hadar and Breen sets and then slowly grind the reputations.

Then, rethink your skills.

If you are NOT using any sci skills, the KHG, Reman/Romulan stuff is useless for U.

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Last edited by duaths1; 03-18-2013 at 09:56 AM.
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# 3
03-18-2013, 09:47 AM
Uhh yeah, I've just been looking at that. Doesn't quite answer my questions though.
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# 4
03-18-2013, 09:47 AM
It depends a bit on what you want your ships to be able to do.
And what kind of ships you have.
And what kind of power setup.
For simplicity I'll say MACO when I mean The MACO/Adapted KHG set and KHG for Adapted MACO/KHG.

When you don't use a lot of power on your engines the KHG Impulse works really well.
When your ship has lots of hull, the KHG shield is really good.
Less hull (like a BoP) consider the MACO shield.
For the most part I'd always use the MACO Deflector because of its bonus to hull points.

Personally I find the 3-piece bonuses on both sets underwhelming and thus I almost always end up with KHG shield and engine with the MACO deflector on pretty much every ship aside from the BoP.
Even on science ships the hull is usually strong enough to withstand the 10% bleedthrough and the "Tactical Readiness" bonus to torpeodes is great.

And i'm pretty sure there'll be a lot of people around who'll find this position outlandish.
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# 5
03-18-2013, 09:55 AM
Stock MACO is a good all around set. Also good for defense (aside from fleet shields the MACO shield is arguably the best in-game for staying alive in PvE at the moment due to the extra shield resists).

Omega is good for hit and runs, and (to a lesser degree) for taking out shields with the tet glider procs.

Adapted MACO is excellent for torpedo ships (the 2-piece is basically a free torpedo tactical console) and for science/carrier ships (I'm sitting at 60+ aux with a setting of 25 with Adapted Maco and the Borg Deflector) or simply those wanting to boost sci-based heals.
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# 6
03-18-2013, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by flash525 View Post
Uhh yeah, I've just been looking at that. Doesn't quite answer my questions though.
updated the post above

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# 7
03-18-2013, 11:06 AM
Personally, I use the Borg engine and deflector with the Jem'Hadar shield. JH shield is a little light on HP, but for me the all around damage resist+crew resist makes up for it, combine the JH shield with a single biofunction monitor and you will never have crew death in combat and they will regen much faster. Keeping crew alive keeps your boff power cooldowns from having so much time added to them when you get hit by torpedoes, boarding parties, assimilate crew, or whatever else causes direct crew damage.

It doesn't work as well for ships with bloated crew counts like Carriers though. Anything with more than around 1000 crew and it doesn't do as much good since even out of combat it takes quite a while to regen all that crew back to full. It works great for Escorts, Sci ships, and Cruisers with low crew counts.
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# 8
03-18-2013, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by duaths1 View Post
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So, from what I've gathered, the Assimilated Set works with pretty much anything, the Romulan and Reman Sets work better with a Science Ship (though I'd hardly call completing the Reman Set 'easy') and the Breen Set is useless.

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Originally Posted by duaths1 View Post
i am experimenting with the breen set now, as everybody and their cousins are now using the Jem'Hadar and polarons in PVP and STF's, and the Breen set has Polaron resistance. I would advise you to grind BOTH Jem'Hadar and Breen sets and then slowly grind the reputations.
I suppose that was a given, all these players with their Jem Hadar ships.

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Originally Posted by misterde3 View Post
It depends a bit on what you want your ships to be able to do.
Well, my Tactical player will be all about punishment (giving rather than receiving). I want my Engineering player to be able to hold out (currently got him in a Patrol Escort, and he dies far too often for my liking).

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Originally Posted by misterde3 View Post
For simplicity I'll say MACO when I mean The MACO/Adapted KHG set and KHG for Adapted MACO/KHG.
just to clarify, this one: http://www.stowiki.org/Set 7th down (it hasn't got a page of it's own yet).

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Originally Posted by stirling191 View Post
Stock MACO is a good all around set. Also good for defense (aside from fleet shields the MACO shield is arguably the best in-game for staying alive in PvE at the moment due to the extra shield resists).

Omega is good for hit and runs, and (to a lesser degree) for taking out shields with the tet glider procs.
Thus I've been told right (more or less)? MACO for ENG and Omega for Tac will work well.

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updated the post above
I saw, thanks.

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Originally Posted by talien View Post
Personally, I use the Borg engine and deflector with the Jem'Hadar shield. JH shield is a little light on HP, but for me the all around damage resist+crew resist makes up for it, combine the JH shield with a single biofunction monitor and you will never have crew death in combat and they will regen much faster. Keeping crew alive keeps your boff power cooldowns from having so much time added to them when you get hit by torpedoes, boarding parties, assimilate crew, or whatever else causes direct crew damage.

It doesn't work as well for ships with bloated crew counts like Carriers though. Anything with more than around 1000 crew and it doesn't do as much good since even out of combat it takes quite a while to regen all that crew back to full. It works great for Escorts, Sci ships, and Cruisers with low crew counts.
An odd mix, but duly noted. Thanks!
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# 9
03-18-2013, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by flash525 View Post
just to clarify, this one: http://www.stowiki.org/Set 7th down (it hasn't got a page of it's own yet).
Yup, the Adapted MACO set stats are identical to thos of the KGH set and the other way around.
Just the looks stay the same (so the adapted sets have the same look as the non-adapted sets)
You can also hop on to tribble and try them out...for free

Last edited by misterde3; 03-18-2013 at 01:10 PM.
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# 10
03-18-2013, 01:16 PM
The Jem'Hadar set is ragingly popular right now. On paper, the shields look great, but as someone mentioned, the HP is not conducive for getting shot at for prolonged periods. Some nice perks with the set, but despite the great resists on shields, it is somewhat fragile. Probably needs some serious Sci consoles to boost HP.
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