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# 71
03-20-2013, 10:48 AM
Thanks, but I think I'll pass on this one.

The Andorian starter pack isn't much of a draw for me personally, since I'm not starting out and have already purchased the Andorian ships for my Admirals.

I'm curious about Neverwinter, BUT I was introduced to Cryptic through STO. I've spent some money on Champs, but STO is my MAIN game really.

That said, a lot of my future activities with STO hinges on your upcoming announcement.

May is where the rubber hits the road with me.

I'm going to avoid making many game purchases until then.
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# 72
03-20-2013, 10:50 AM
I'd still like a reason as to why they didn't include any KDF bonuses. Could you please find out for us, branflakes?
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# 73
03-20-2013, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sunfrancks View Post
Wow, I think this is the lowest Cryptic/PWE have stooped to date.

Pass......
Offer extends to most, if not all, of PW MMOs, not just to STO.

Of course its a rip-off if you just want the ship, I understand this is a perk for NwN founders but its certainly not for STO players.

Advertising another of their game is fine but this pack is not getting much sales with this tactic, fact is that its $199 and all you get is something I already own (Steam pack) and a ship that looks exactly like another I already own, Andorian Escort, except its far inferior.

The only thing unique and useful is the Light Wing Cannons ... thats $199 for a item.

This would be better directed at NwN players that brought that pack and might want to check other PW MMOs, not us because for them those are in fact FREE items but for us those are nothing but $199 for a bunch of stuff of VERY limited use.
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# 74
03-20-2013, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by linyive View Post
Do you know what?

I think its cheaper to buy an offline game. If game companies like Cryptic/Perfect World and EA/BioWare keep selling extremely over expensive content, the only solution for me is to go back to single-player and offline games.

$200 could buy ten slightly aged games from Best Buy.

Why in god's name would I want to burn $200 for twenty five tiny digital items?

No way is that going to happen. Zero.

*looks at the other packs on the page*

rofl...

$59.99 can buy you a new recently released game.

$14.99-$19.99 can buy you a slightly aged game.

I do not mind buying a whole game, but this is ridiculous on so many levels.
Well let's call a spade a spade.

MMO only really exists as a genre due to people too stupid to measure cost vs. reward to begin with. There's no value for dollar in them at all. That's certainly nothing new.

There's a reason every MMO in the world has a F2P aspect at this point. But there will always be people who don't understand that a dollar is worth a dollar, so there will always be MMO's now. And if people have money to light on fire... well, good for them. Personally I find the costs way out of my range, but to each their own.

People laughed when they started selling tap water in a bottle for $5 too. But it's 2013 and here we are.
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# 75
03-20-2013, 11:03 AM
For an STO player that's really into Neverwinter, it's a good bonus.

For an STO player that's not really into Neverwinter, that's an awfully expensive Tier 1 ship.
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Join Date: Mar 2013
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# 76
03-20-2013, 11:04 AM
[quote=tsurutafan01;8684901]Well let's call a spade a spade.

MMO only really exists as a genre due to people too stupid to measure cost vs. reward to begin with. There's no value for dollar in them at all. That's certainly nothing new.

There's a reason every MMO in the world has a F2P aspect at this point. Only real question is how many years until the bubble bursts entirely and the genre passes into history.[/QUOTE

Its counter productive to advertise Never Winter Nights on Star Trek Online forums. I get the idea you want more $$$ but your taking away people from one PW game to play anther. Sure the money goes to the same place. Do some real advertising.
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# 77
03-20-2013, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by alphastrike View Post

Its counter productive to advertise Never Winter Nights on Star Trek Online forums. I get the idea you want more $$$ but your taking away people from one PW game to play anther. Sure the money goes to the same place. Do some real advertising.
People really need to stop referring to Neverwinter as Neverwinter Nights. One was a game actually based on the DnD source rules and material. The other is a generic fantasy game that slapped the DnD names on things.
Ensign
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# 78
03-20-2013, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by stirling191 View Post
People really need to stop referring to Neverwinter as Neverwinter Nights. One was a game actually based on the DnD source rules and material. The other is a generic fantasy game that slapped the DnD names on things.
My bad. Never Winter Online
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# 79
03-20-2013, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by tsurutafan01 View Post
There's a reason every MMO in the world has a F2P aspect at this point. Only real question is how many years until the bubble bursts entirely and the genre passes into history.
Good point.

Call me a little optimistic, but... I am hoping that the old ways of selling core games and expansion packs are rediscovered.

When it comes to the 'Free to Play' and general MMO paradigms, I think players lose out in quality, quantity, pricing, and physical ownership.

I have no problem with buying a whole game. I also do not have a problem with buying expansion packs.

Something needs to change.

I want physical ownership of my game, and I do not want to feel like I am being scammed.

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# 80
03-20-2013, 11:27 AM
I understand this offer is made to encourage NW players who buy the most expensive pack to also play STO.

But, what's the point of making level-scaled Light Wing Cannon if you can only equip them on the Light Andorian Escort ?
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