Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 883
# 831
03-28-2013, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by adrianm63 View Post
so its mean if a company wants to make some money?
wtf ,this is the most f2p game .You can grind dilithium ,buy zen and then buy slots ...seems you cant do that and you also too cheap to pay for 2 character slots...
While I do not begrudge any company even Cryptic making money. I think you are going a little in the other direction.

The issue is Cryptic's own policy. They have stated that their F2P model is just that, free to play. They do not restrict any content behind a pay wall. The dilithium/zen conversion is irrelevant. It is a workaround and nothing more. It is a way to get all the "shinies" you want and still not HAVE to pay, it does not eliminate the pay wall.

Now if Cryptic releases the Romulan Faction without a free Romulan Faction only slot, They are going against their own standing policy, Because Romulan play would effectively be behind a pay wall. Silver players will have to work around that pay wall if they want to play 1/3 of the content of the game. That is the ONLY reason, I feel they will offer a free Romulan slot to all new and existing accounts.

This stance of mine is based solely on cryptics long held standing. As I have stated, whether they hold to this or not, has no effect on me. If they do, I effectively have a free slot I probably will not use, unless they release Sulibans or something. But as far as playing a Romulan or Hirogen within the Romulan Republic, I am covered without needing an extra slot.

Last edited by voyagerfan9751; 03-28-2013 at 10:55 AM.
Captain
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# 832
03-28-2013, 10:49 AM
Honestly for all the people who think Cryptic and PWE are so greedy...


Go play The old republic and you will see just how very much worse it could be.
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
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# 833
03-28-2013, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by voyagerfan9751 View Post
While I do not begrudge any company even Cryptic making money. I think you are going a little in the other direction.

The issue is Cryptic's own policy. They have stated that their F2P model is just that, free to play. They do not restrict any content behind a pay wall. The dilithium/zen conversion is irrelevant. It is a workaround and nothing more. It is a way to get all the "shinies" you want and still not HAVE to pay, it does not eliminate the pay wall.

Now if Cryptic releases the Romulan Faction without a free Romulan Faction only slot, They are going against their own standing policy, Because Romulan play would effectively be behind a pay wall. Silver players will have to work around that pay wall if they want to play 1/3 of the content of the game. That is the ONLY reason, I feel they will offer a free Romulan slot to all new and existing accounts.

This stance of mine is based solely on cryptics long held standing. As I have stated, whether they hold to this or not, has no effect on me. If they do, I effectively have a free slot I probably will not use, unless they release Sulibans or something. But as far as playing a Romulan or Hirogen within the Romulan Republic, I am covered without needing an extra slot.
You can't call 625 zen which can be acquired easily for nothing but time and effort while you actually play the game as a PAY wall. There is no mandatory exchange of real money.

Until cryptic say they are giving an extra slot or they are adjusting their current f2p model then people should be prepared. I expect they will give a free slot because the something for absolutely nothing culture will cry otherwise.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Feb 2013
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# 834
03-28-2013, 11:54 AM
i've been wating to fly a d'deridex since...probably about 1996?
Ensign
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 1
# 835
03-28-2013, 11:55 AM
Create your first character as a member of the Federation, Klingon Empire, or Romulan Republic and level your captain from 1 to 50.

Read it, starter universal character slot!
Career Officer
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# 836
03-28-2013, 01:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by voyagerfan9751 View Post
While I do not begrudge any company even Cryptic making money. I think you are going a little in the other direction.

The issue is Cryptic's own policy. They have stated that their F2P model is just that, free to play. They do not restrict any content behind a pay wall. The dilithium/zen conversion is irrelevant. It is a workaround and nothing more. It is a way to get all the "shinies" you want and still not HAVE to pay, it does not eliminate the pay wall.

Now if Cryptic releases the Romulan Faction without a free Romulan Faction only slot, They are going against their own standing policy, Because Romulan play would effectively be behind a pay wall. Silver players will have to work around that pay wall if they want to play 1/3 of the content of the game. That is the ONLY reason, I feel they will offer a free Romulan slot to all new and existing accounts.

This stance of mine is based solely on cryptics long held standing. As I have stated, whether they hold to this or not, has no effect on me. If they do, I effectively have a free slot I probably will not use, unless they release Sulibans or something. But as far as playing a Romulan or Hirogen within the Romulan Republic, I am covered without needing an extra slot.
i agree with you totally, i was only making the point that if the companys only reason for bringing out this update was to make more money then i sure they would be a lot more resticted in the game as it stands like the aformentioned republic.
but as the game is like 99.9% free to play apart from a few bells and wistles that are just tisel on the tree i cant see why they should suddenly change tack on what promises to be a very large portion of the game.
i can understand charging for slots for players who want more then one character from maybe another race or gender from within the same faction and i can understand them charging for fancy outfits superduper ships and weapons and such like and i have no problem with that.
i have played my kdf charecter as much as my fed and have found that i would have missed out on a lot of content had there only been only one slot to start, even within missions that are basicly the same, the kdf acts and speaks a lot differantly to the fed and i have enjoyed the alternative perspective this brings to the game.
i know i can convert dilithium to zen within the game but this still requires someone somewhere to have paid for the zen in the first place.
i have no grudge about converting dilithium if i suddenly think i want to buy some of the extra bank slots or new uniform or whatever as this is just what i class as vanity items and are unnecessary luxuries.
but to make any one of the three factions dependent on buying zen or converting dilithium goes against all cryptics current philosophies.
this is why i said i think they should give a slot free - three factions three slots is only fair.

Last edited by bobbydazlers; 03-28-2013 at 01:10 PM.
Ensign
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 8
# 837
03-28-2013, 07:16 PM
yea brand new to sto but very excited about romulans
Ensign
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1
# 838
03-28-2013, 11:46 PM
I just want to applaud the DEV's for finally putting in the Romulan Faction. There is a rich source of stories that I can't wait to delve into. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Cheers
Ensign
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 12
# 839 Dominion Faction
03-29-2013, 12:39 AM
To me it would have been more appropriate to make a Dominion faction. The gamma Quadrant is ripe for exploration, The Dominion is said that have many different species and they are the Opposite to the Federation in philosophy. They have a very rich history and background.

The Romulans are xenophobic and only have a handful of other races... while it would be interesting, I feel this is a cop out.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 840
03-29-2013, 01:48 AM
Actually, I would have preferred a Dominion or Cardassian faction first.

But at the moment, I'm not really bothered who comes first anymore.

I'm so bored with doing the same old endgame grinds that any faction will be a welcome change from the monotony of Fleet Queues.

Assuming I get my Hirogen Captain that is.
Cryptic still haven't confirmed or denied if we get to play as them for Romulan Faction.
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