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Survivor of Romulus
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http://sto.gamepedia.com/Fleet_Advan...uiser_Retrofit
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Fleet_Assault_Cruiser

These ships are very similar, and I'm looking to buy one for my Engineer. Any suggestions why one is better than the other? I'm currently running a Romulan Beam Array loadout.
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# 2
05-26-2013, 08:56 AM
ts realy a matter of taste so to speak as both ships are indeed very similar in performance.
The FAHCR Excelsior is more nimble and its boff seating is a bit better suited to heals compared to the FACR.
The Fleet Sovereign on the other hand comes with a more flexible Boff seating and if setup correctly can dish out a little bit more dps than the FAHCR.
The difference is very slight though and it comes at a price wich is the almost total loss team healing abilities.
I do own both and at the moment i use the FACR with a Sovereign skin. But i swap back and forth with the Excelsior on the FAHCR.
Its realy not such big a difference. If i have to have the last little bit of dps in a fed cruiser i go for the Sovereign.
But in al honesty the FAHCR is just a bit more fun. Especialy if you do like to travel alot for doff misisons or mission replays or foundry stuff. That advanced transwarpdrive is endlessly usefull.
Maybe the look of the ships makes a difference for you.
Since your character is an engineer i might suggest the FACR . Your captains abilities might offset some of the treade offs you have to take in order to make it a heavy hitter.
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# 3
05-26-2013, 09:14 AM
It depends on what you will be using the ship for.

If you are planning to do a lot of PVE content (STFs, etc.), the Sovereign would be your best bet.

If you are planning to do a lot of PVP, avoid both of these ships if you plan on flying in Arena or Cap and Hold. Get a ship with more team heals.

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# 4
05-26-2013, 09:31 AM
I own a Fleet Excelsior with two copies of Aux2Bat I and 7x Romulan plasma beam arrays + 1 Kinetic Cutting Beam.. The Fleet Assault Cruiser is not yet available to me because of the T5 shipyard requirement.

The powerful cooldown reduction that comes with Aux2Bat practically gives me two copies of every bridge officer ability. This makes the already obsolete ensign engineering slot twice obsolete.

The Fleet Assault ditches the ensign engeering in favor of a ensign tactical. If you run Aux2Bat like me, a second copy of TacTeam I would be as obsolete as the ensign engineering. You could slot a subsystem target ability or a beam overload though. If you don't intend to run an Aux2Bat build, forget what I just wrote. On the other hand both ships wouldn't be as much fun without Aux2Bat.

If I had the ability to choose, I would go with the Fleet Assault because of the better BOFF layout and the ability to create a really beautiful custom ship design. Ultimately I would end up getting both of cause
Survivor of Romulus
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# 5
05-26-2013, 10:41 AM
Thanks for the tips so far... I'd be using the ship fairly exclusively for PvE.
Would appreciate any more suggestions!
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# 6
05-26-2013, 11:56 AM
I'd go with the Excelsior. It's a better looking ship IMO, and it's special ability is built in-which means you have more console slots available to you. Plus, the transwarp is a REALLY handy thing to have. I don't mind the ensign slots. I just load them up with EPtX1. If you combine that with the new doff that gives you a 40% chance to clear all hazards on an EPtX power, you probably won't need HE, since your EPtX will keep you clear of plasma.
Survivor of Romulus
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# 7
05-26-2013, 12:07 PM
I personally would go for the Sovereign over the Excelsior, and wish the fleet I was in was at T5. Their stats are similar enough that you can pretty much choose between them with whatever criteria you want, but IMO the Sov has a better Boff layout and from a lore and aesthetics point of view it looks much better.
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# 8
05-26-2013, 12:51 PM
Fleet Excelsior:

+T3 shipyard
+8 turnrate
+Transwarp
-Bad engi ensign slot

Fleet Assault:

+Good tac ensign slot
+Get wide angle torp from Regent along the way
-T5 shipyard
-7 turnrate

I think the engi slot is the clincher which makes Fleet Assault that little bit more desirable. But honestly these 2 ships are almost the same and both excellent cruisers, probably the best a Fed can get.
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# 9
05-26-2013, 05:36 PM
Like people before me said, the differences are pretty small. The Fleet Assault Cruiser is generally easier to use, so its preferable in PvE. That being said, the Fleet Excelsior, despite being difficult to use at first, is generally (ever so slightly) more effective in PvP. Its also very nimble.

I've used both extensively, and I ended up settling on the Fleet Excelsior with a cannon/turret build. Its just a wee bit better.
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# 10
05-27-2013, 02:59 AM
I am getting the sinking feeling that this is going to end with me buying both ships to see what I like best... Does purchasing the Regent Class (AC-Refit) give a FSM discount on the FAC?

Edit: The wiki says it does, so I'm thinking of buying that whole package just for the ship skin (my Engineer has no torpedo or particle generator specialisation). Given how similar the two ships are, I'm going to pick the FAC, as I prefer the ship's more modern design.

Last edited by starblade7; 05-27-2013 at 04:00 AM.
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