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# 61
03-25-2013, 12:48 PM
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They hadn't put the Valdore in the game yet. Which is supposed to be a much bigger/tougher ship than the Mogai Escort. Which is listed on the movie as a Warbird, not a little escort. Unless I'm wrong and they are using it for the Valdore type.

The sky is the limit on what they can do. Since there isn't many Romulan ships ever made it to TV. About like the Klingons. So there is a lot of game made models to design.
Depending on your source, the Valdore is described as one of three classes: a Valdore, Norexan or Mogai type Warbird.

Secondly, the STO Mogai is on par with the Valdore in terms of it's size. It's not a stretch to conclude that the two are from the same line (though not necessarily the same generation) of vessel. A vessel that, by the way, is larger than most medium to heavy cruisers.
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# 62
03-25-2013, 01:12 PM
Offically the ship-class name was never revealed, and everyone (including the creator, John Eaves) refered to the Valdore as the Valdore-class. Then the Star Trek Card Game named it the Norexian and then the novels named it Mogai (which STO picked up on).

For years, I commented that if Cryptic ever made a Romulan faction, they could make variations and give it each of the three-names. Which after the Odyssey, Bortasque, Vesta, and the Andorian escorts, that possbility could very well happen.

The Valdore could be the Engineering version (a destroyer-type).
The Mogai the Escort.
The Norexian the Science Ship (Sci-scort).

(Of course, depends if Cryptic is allowed to use the name Norexian, from the Card Game).
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# 63
03-25-2013, 01:30 PM
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Offically the ship-class name was never revealed, and everyone (including the creator, John Eaves) refered to the Valdore as the Valdore-class. Then the Star Trek Card Game named it the Norexian and then the novels named it Mogai (which STO picked up on).

For years, I commented that if Cryptic ever made a Romulan faction, they could make variations and give it each of the three-names. Which after the Odyssey, Bortasque, Vesta, and the Andorian escorts, that possbility could very well happen.

The Valdore could be the Engineering version (a destroyer-type).
The Mogai the Escort.
The Norexian the Science Ship (Sci-scort).

(Of course, depends if Cryptic is allowed to use the name Norexian, from the Card Game).
I like this idea. But it's spelled Norexan not NorexIan. :p
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# 64
03-25-2013, 03:11 PM
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I like this idea. But it's spelled Norexan not NorexIan. :p
Meh, my spelling is cooler sounding.
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# 65
03-25-2013, 07:23 PM
BoP- lower lvl ship escort
D7- lower lvl cruiser
Scout- lower lvl science ship
Fvillha(romulan raptor) - escort
Mogai/Valdore/Norexan - destroyer with three class variants(i think he is too big on escort)
Kerchan- cruiser
D'Deridex - battlecruiser with three class variants
Drone(scorpion) carrier-carrier
Scimitar - tank (with 5 fore and 4 aft weapons slots)

and Shadow class destroyer with phase cloak for lifetimers

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# 66
03-25-2013, 07:47 PM
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Ive seen this beauty around for a few years, the Kerchan Warbird. Longer than the D'deridex but less mass I think, sort of the way they did the Galaxy to the Sovereign.

https://www.google.com/search?q=romu...%3B1599%3B1282
Yes, the Kerchan class (937m) is realy nice , but she is not longer than D'Deridex(1353m)
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# 67
03-25-2013, 07:49 PM
Actually I have been wondering, ships like the Winged Defender have been used in multiple games by multiple companies, doesn't this make them open sourced or whatever its called? Meaning anyone can use them?
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# 68
03-25-2013, 08:02 PM
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BoP- lower lvl ship escort
D7- lower lvl cruiser
Scout- lower lvl science ship
Fvillha(romulan raptor) - escort
Mogai/Valdore/Norexan - destroyer with three class variants(i think he is too big on escort)
Kerchan- cruiser
D'Deridex - battlecruiser with three class variants
Drone(scorpion) carrier-carrier
Scimitar - tank (with 5 fore and 4 aft weapons slots)

and Shadow class destroyer with phase cloak for lifetimers
Romulan BoPs are Cruisers, not Escorts. They were slow and unmanuverable.

Fvillha and Kerchan - lets stick to canonical ships.



Since all Romulan ships are Warbirds, be interesting how they handle an Escort and Science Branches. Though wouldn't be surprised they have Reman ships handle as Escorts.
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# 69
03-25-2013, 08:11 PM
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Romulan BoPs are Cruisers, not Escorts. They were slow and unmanuverable.

Fvillha and Kerchan - lets stick to canonical ships.



Since all Romulan ships are Warbirds, be interesting how they handle an Escort and Science Branches. Though wouldn't be surprised they have Reman ships handle as Escorts.
Yes , you are right, but in 25.century they are an escorts
And Fvillha - the Romulans needs escorts like raptor and Kerchan is my favourite design ,
i know non-canon from games
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# 70
03-25-2013, 11:30 PM
If I remember correctly, Riker actually said in Nemesis that Remans were used as shock troops during the Dominion War, so Starfleet's known of the Remans since then at least.

The vertical setup Warbird that was brought up earlier was a concept design for the D'Deridex I think...
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