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# 41
03-23-2013, 01:35 PM
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I thought this thread was about how the leadership trait is too powerful (and quite frankly it is if you take 5 officers with it)
Thing is, imagine what might be possible with the trait changes in May, eh?

You might be able to take the Human Captain with it as well as 5 BOFFs with it...while still having the Accurate/Elusive, eh? Fun stuff, fun stuff...
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# 42
03-23-2013, 01:47 PM
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Thing is, imagine what might be possible with the trait changes in May, eh?

You might be able to take the Human Captain with it as well as 5 BOFFs with it...while still having the Accurate/Elusive, eh? Fun stuff, fun stuff...
Actually, I'm worried about what the additional traits will allow. Are they going to allow boffs to take captain-only traits? Imagine 6 officers with accurate, 6 officers with elusive, or 6 officers with both leadership and techie.

Maybe, they will allow KDF boffs to take leadership. That would make things fairer. However, I would prefer that they balance the leadership trait against other traits instead.
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# 43
03-23-2013, 01:55 PM
It will be interesting if they add additional Embassies.

Will the Romulans have Romulan Embassies? Or might they break out some additional Embassies, so it's something like:

Fed - Romulan and Klingon
KDF - Romulan and Federation
Rom - Klingon and Federation

In that way, the Federation would natively have access to Human BOFFs - while the KDF and Roms could get it from the Fed Embassy.

Roms would natively have access to Rom BOFFs - and much like it is now, KDF/Fed would continue to get them from the Romulan Embassy.

There would need to be a KDF Space Trait - and the KDF would get that natively, while the Feds/Roms would get it from the Klingon Embassy.

Maybe they'll be Factional Traits rather than Racial Traits...but meh, just under two months to go - I just hope they've got people in the meetings that aren't shy about bringing up everything that LoR is going to require. STO for it being a somewhat simple and casual game, is still pretty damn complex there...
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Willard the Rat, Reman, F.T'varo - Rave, J.Trill, Kar'Fi - Mysk, Gorn, Varanus
Kopor, Nausicaan, Guramba - Nivuh, Ferasan, B'rel - Venit, Lethean, M.Qin
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# 44
03-23-2013, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by virusdancer View Post
It will be interesting if they add additional Embassies.

Will the Romulans have Romulan Embassies? Or might they break out some additional Embassies, so it's something like:

Fed - Romulan and Klingon
KDF - Romulan and Federation
Rom - Klingon and Federation

In that way, the Federation would natively have access to Human BOFFs - while the KDF and Roms could get it from the Fed Embassy.

Roms would natively have access to Rom BOFFs - and much like it is now, KDF/Fed would continue to get them from the Romulan Embassy.

There would need to be a KDF Space Trait - and the KDF would get that natively, while the Feds/Roms would get it from the Klingon Embassy.

Maybe they'll be Factional Traits rather than Racial Traits...but meh, just under two months to go - I just hope they've got people in the meetings that aren't shy about bringing up everything that LoR is going to require. STO for it being a somewhat simple and casual game, is still pretty damn complex there...
While that sounds nice in principle, it will just mean more grinding to level the multiple embassies. Also, I'm not sure just who the Romulan faction are supposed to represent. The New Romulans under D'Tan? The Romulan government working for Sela? Either way, the current New Romulus content seems wrong for them.
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# 45
03-23-2013, 03:35 PM
I assume New Romulus is the 'ESD' of the New Romulan Republic. Instead of the big doors leading to an embassy, they will be to some variant of a home base for the NRR. Everything else will be the same.
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# 46
03-23-2013, 04:58 PM
It kind of begs the question - which Romulans will players be playing, eh?

There's the Romulan Star Empire which was headed by Sela until her disappearance.
There's the New Romulan Empire which is headed by D'Kan.

Sela is returning.

Player ships show the RRW instead of IRW. Of course, IRW was used by the RSE and was continued to be used by the NRE.

Will Sela's return be as a new group?

Is there actually yet another Romulan faction out there? Those opposed to both D'Kan and Sela?

How much of what Hakeev was doing with the Iconians was Sela aware of?

Will there be the followers of Hakeev/Iconian/Tal Shiar Romulans...the D'Kan Romulans...Sela Romulans? Or is there actually yet another...lol.

Yeah, I just don't get why they made such a "big" announcement with so little information.

It's all but killed any desire to play the game - there's not much point in doing anything but grinding Dil/EC for what may or may not come (not only just for the Romulans, but whatever other changes/etc may be coming for Fed/KDF). Do you continue to grind up that starbase/reputation or do you just hold off to do it with the Romulans? Why bother with ships? Why bother with so much...?

C'mon, you've got to admit there's a growing angst amongst quite a bit of the playerbase that's spilling over into all sorts of threads/discussions. People are at eachother's throats like never before... Cryptic did a massive mindf...um...yeah, they messed with the heads of a lot of folks by doing such a big announcement with absolutely almost no information.
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# 47
03-23-2013, 05:53 PM
well lets hope this "expansion" is like a real expansion and includes a host of bug/gameplay fixes.

if not, its just shoveling more **** on top of the old ****.
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# 48
03-23-2013, 05:56 PM
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well lets hope this "expansion" is like a real expansion and includes a host of bug/gameplay fixes.

if not, its just shoveling more **** on top of the old ****.
Unfortunately, to me at least...it looks like it's going to be more stuff piled on top of stuff without the old stuff being fixed - which will make it that much harder to fix any of the old stuff much less any of the new stuff.

I normally only get longevity out of a game because of the PvP in it... I'm losing all interest in STO's PvP. The Meh Update only looks to make that worse.
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Willard the Rat, Reman, F.T'varo - Rave, J.Trill, Kar'Fi - Mysk, Gorn, Varanus
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# 49
03-23-2013, 05:59 PM
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Unfortunately, to me at least...it looks like it's going to be more stuff piled on top of stuff without the old stuff being fixed - which will make it that much harder to fix any of the old stuff much less any of the new stuff.

I normally only get longevity out of a game because of the PvP in it... I'm losing all interest in STO's PvP. The Meh Update only looks to make that worse.
ive been having mindless fun in saints row the third. should give it a look-see.

no pvp but loads of fun/easter eggs to hunt for.
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Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
Do you even Science Bro?
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# 50
03-25-2013, 03:04 AM
im waiting on gta5 mai xP

well i've reached that point in the game that the only thing i have to do is testing and pvp

and im sick of pvping this way, i hope they fix the crew issue once and for all in may, and, or they nerf human boffs, or create new traits to compete with leadership, thats all what i want ...

if they make a venture skin for the nebula
stop tacs boosting fbp
create that warp core/cpu thing for the ships, making cruisers with something better than escorts
and if they fix all the the crew issue

but no, they just keep making more content, but please devs, first, fix the old and important content, then you may add new factions and ships for us to spend our money
and why you still making ships ? we are waiting for typhoons, fleet dread's, etc etc and they are allready in the game ...

i am a fed, and im defending klingons saying human boffs are op, and they just come here and call me a noob... this community's atitude is not helping the advance of this game at all...
it's not the ship or the build, it's the atitude
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