Lieutenant
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 44
# 1 Noobs and Stf's
03-23-2013, 06:28 PM
Is it just me, but ive been paired up recently with ALOT of cruisers and N00bs in STf's lately. Ive been failing the optionals (if not the while objective itself) and not been getting my full rewards that im entitled to as I consider myself one of the 'better players".
I understand how ships, Boff's, consoles, weapons, etc. all add up to the entirety of a captain and his/her playing skill. Still though, im tired of being paored up with 3 or 4 cruisers and im the ONLY person in an escort (Breen to be precise) and being the only one going after the gateways while it takes the rest of the 'team" to go after probes, or to take out a simple cube.
Is there a place for us more advanced players to play elite STf's and NOT fail the optionals or objectives 8/10 times? I hope there is, because im tired of seeing all these cruisers/noobs (and i have seen a few very good cruisers, but they are rare and far between, so with a few exceptions they are one and the same)

Somebody please enlighten me. I think there should be some other precursor other than being level 50 for a player to play elite stf's. There should be a proving ground of some kind, where if your playing in a cruiser for example, you and your team get the optionals/objectives AT LEAST 7/10 times before you can join an elite STf with other players. If not that, then some sort of elite ranking system where you are graded on your performance (damage, times destroyed, time to comepletion etc..) so you can be joined with players of equal caliber as your own.
Its not fair to other players who have decent 'sphere killing' ships to be paired with other players who are clearly sub-par to you and be forced to quit an elite and wait an hour to join another que, when clearly there is no chance to win.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,166
# 2
03-23-2013, 06:35 PM
While my Excelsior can do a bit of dps and even kill the probes in KSE, I do feel your pain.

Though noobs in escorts and sci are just as bad as the cruiser ones. All those rainbow builds....
Captain
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,329
# 3
03-23-2013, 06:38 PM
seems to be worst on the weekends... I dont think I've been on a team today that completed the optionals, and half of them probably failed altogether
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,652
# 4
03-23-2013, 06:54 PM
OP, if you were a truly leet player you would know better than to expect good runs from pugs. Get a group.

Of course, most true leet players I know realize that if they go into Pugland they'd better be ready to carry 60% of the load. If you can't do that then don't be upset when your pug's fail.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 44
# 5
03-23-2013, 07:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by skyranger1414 View Post
OP, if you were a truly leet player you would know better than to expect good runs from pugs. Get a group.

Of course, most true leet players I know realize that if they go into Pugland they'd better be ready to carry 60% of the load. If you can't do that then don't be upset when your pug's fail.
i must not be El!te enough then... just a player wanting a reasonable solution
Captain
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,181
# 6
03-23-2013, 07:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xunclexruckusx View Post
Its not fair to other players who have decent 'sphere killing' ships to be paired with other players who are clearly sub-par to you and be forced to quit an elite and wait an hour to join another que, when clearly there is no chance to win.
Just because their are noobz that join Elite mission and make things harder does not force you to quit and get a 1 hour ban. That is your choice to be a quitter. If your in the mission for 15 min you can quit without getting a 1 hour ban.

If you don't want to play them with random people join a fleet and arrange to do the missions with members of the fleet.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,652
# 7
03-23-2013, 07:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xunclexruckusx View Post
i must not be El!te enough then... just a player wanting a reasonable solution
I gave you one. Get a group and stop pugging.
Captain
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 4,259
# 8
03-23-2013, 07:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xunclexruckusx View Post
i must not be El!te enough then... just a player wanting a reasonable solution
A reasonable solution is probably to just to the normal STFs when pugging. I don't know. There's a much wider margin for error so they don't fail as often when randomly grouped together?

I've been having terrible luck Pugging the cure lately. But this weekend I've been mostly levelling an alt. So I only did one STF. Cure on elite. And BAM! Got lucky. We smoked it! Got the optional and everything. S'been awhile since it went that smooth.

Pugging is just a roll of the dice. It is what it is. I feel your frustration.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 607
# 9
03-23-2013, 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by skyranger1414 View Post
I gave you one. Get a group and stop pugging.
This,

OP, I feel your pain but you're rolling the dice when you pug.

That's the nature of the queue system for these missions, they are unpredictable.
You never know what you're going to get.

You know what burns my ass ( other than a flame three four feet high )?
Joining an already existing mission that's in progress, that's gone wrong, horribly wrong, about to fail because the Kang is just about dead, before I can even reach it wrong.

But that's pugs for ya. Ce la vie
"Your uniform is very... informative." -- The Doctor, to Seven of Nine
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,000
# 10
03-23-2013, 07:30 PM
My fleet created the public elite stf channel which is for people to find teams of people that at least know how to do elite stf and should also be at least average. It's got a lot of people in it. I'll find out from one of our leaders what the channel name is and post it here for you.

It doesn't have the stringent rules and kicking etc the other elite stf channel has so you can't be 100% certain the people are great but all I've played with from the channel have been fine.
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