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So we've been told that the Enterprise-J can not be included for various game breaking reasons due to it's immense size (approx. 2 miles long). Maybe also some licensing issues, I can't remember.

Anyway, assuming there were no licensing issues, would you like to see an Ent-J scaled down to approximately the size of the Ent-F so as to avoid game-breaking size issues? Or would that just be too much?

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# 2
03-14-2013, 09:10 AM
That ruins the point of the ship doesn't it? The reason it's so big is because it's moving that large a community through space exploration.
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# 3
03-14-2013, 09:51 AM
Simply to answer NO
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# 4
03-14-2013, 09:59 AM
We already have that: it's called "Patrol Escort".
No thank you.
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# 5
03-14-2013, 10:04 AM
That thing is so spindly looking, that its sheer size was the only thing that made it believable. If it was the same size as a normal ship, I'd expect those nacelles to snap right off; and the saucer would look like it only has room for a single deck.

I wouldn't object to something based on the Ent-J; but just scaling the original down wouldn't work.
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# 6
03-14-2013, 06:01 PM
I always forget that the Enterprise J is my least favorite enterprise and not the JJ prise. No thanks, but it might be cool as an npc in a mission or something.
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# 7
03-14-2013, 06:39 PM
If the game were to progress to a point where we needed a new Enterprise, I could see the next one starting to show design decisions that would be moving to the Ent-J. That would make sense.

What I would really like to see is a mission where the Ent-J was there as part of the scenery and rendered at full scale. It would essentially be sitting in space like DS-9 with a battle going on around it, but I think that would be totally epic.
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# 8
03-14-2013, 09:05 PM
No thank you, that thing looks like a pizza cutter with warp engines.
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# 9
03-14-2013, 09:17 PM
I've always thought the thing was flat out ugly and way to skinny in some places. It doesn't matter how big it is. I would prefer to think that the Enterprise-J we saw occurred in an alternate timeline that vanished when the Xindi arc ended.
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# 10
03-14-2013, 09:37 PM
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I would not accept an Ent-J in any capacity or size. Already ridiculous enough with all the timeships flying around, and no Temporal Investigations Agents, cleaning up the mess.

Add to that, the Enterprise-J is one of THE ugliest starships ever to grace the tv-screens. It is by far, the ugliest "Enterprise" in Star Trek history. The "XCV" ring ship seen in The Motion Picture was clearly alot better looking than the Enterprise-J.

No thanks.
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