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# 41
03-23-2013, 05:52 PM
Wait we were asking for a Romulan Faction?!?!?!?!


I thought we were asking for the kind of Romulan for....medical purposes


I was wondering why they were not coming out on 4/20

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# 42
03-23-2013, 05:52 PM
What does alignment have to do with the Romulan Republic? I think you folks have been tagging epohhs too long and the radiation on Molhinar is melting your brains.
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# 43
03-23-2013, 06:01 PM
Trying to make everything into a sad copy of the federation is like turning Drow into High elves
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# 44
03-23-2013, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
Trying to make everything into a sad copy of the federation is like turning Drow into High elves
You mean Drow aren't high elves with dark skin?
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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# 45
03-23-2013, 06:10 PM
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Alignment is a flawed mechanic
Always has been always will be

But Drow are basically inherently "naughty" and Born to serve a Spider Goddess.
No, they are not. Nobody is "born evil." They are taught to be that way. That is the whole point of Drizzt!

The antipathy to individualism on these boards is depressing.
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# 46
03-23-2013, 06:23 PM
He like Elric (who he was ripped off from ) is more evil than his kin

and There is no place for individuals who destroy their own people
those are called sociopaths

As to no one is born evil

Yes im afraid they are

for every Good man there is a bad one
for every Alexander there is a Xerxes
for every Richard there must always be a Saladin

the existance of good requires the existance of evil sad but true

And those Born to be Evil who try to be good end up destroying themselves and others

But back to the Romulans
The Romulans are NOT evil
the REPUBLIC however clearly is
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# 47
03-23-2013, 06:27 PM
If a society accepts and embraces evil, is not an individual of that society who performs evil acts therefore good? Because in the end is not good and evil defined by what society accepts?
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# 48
03-23-2013, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by darkelfofficer View Post
No, they are not. Nobody is "born evil." They are taught to be that way. That is the whole point of Drizzt!

The antipathy to individualism on these boards is depressing.
That is not entirely true. Some people's brain chemistry does lead them to violence - children who kill and torture animals at a young age even though they come from loving families. You might wish to call it "insanity" but all evil is probably an insanity of some sort.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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# 49
03-23-2013, 06:29 PM
True and the basis of social normality

For example in Victorian times it was considered socially acceptable to beat your wife and take opium

These days its not

In ancient Rome slavery was the norm
Nowadays its frowned on
But a Roman who went round cursing slavery would be considered insane
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# 50
03-23-2013, 06:42 PM
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If a society accepts and embraces evil, is not an individual of that society who performs evil acts therefore good? Because in the end is not good and evil defined by what society accepts?
No.

Murder is murder and slavery is slavery. Just because society on the whole tolerates something doesn't mean it's good. And while I wouldn't condemn an ante-bellum plantation owner for possessing slaves - it's the world that he knew - moral relativism would have allowed the institution to persist in perpetuity, because hey, society says it's okay and who are we to judge?

That slavery was tolerated by society doesn't undo the harm that it did.
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