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Why does this exist? If a full team uses these against another, its ubsurdly overpowered. The fed weapons have a crappy little shield heal vs klinks with a massive resistance debuff!?!?!?

Needs to be addressed somehow. At least give Feds the same debuff.....
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# 2
05-29-2013, 04:51 PM
Stats please...
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# 3
05-29-2013, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bobtheyak View Post
Stats please...
Elite Disruptors are Mk XII with: DMGx2, one modifier of your choice, and SDisrupt, along with the normal disruptor proc, can also proc a separate proc which lowers shield resistance on the target.

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# 4
05-29-2013, 04:57 PM
Yep it's pretty bad. It's impossible to tank those disruptors, especially if you're average like me.
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# 5
05-29-2013, 04:57 PM
Feds just got leech and now want KDF elite weapons too?

Can we please just leave somethings faction specific, KDF is losing more and more reasons to try KDF out.

Besides I have seen a few Fed zombie builds out there using elite phasers. Maybe its not the main part of the build, but every bit of healing helps.
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# 6
05-29-2013, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by marc8219 View Post
Feds just got leech and now want KDF elite weapons too?

Can we please just leave somethings faction specific, KDF is losing more and more reasons to try KDF out.

Besides I have seen a few Fed zombie builds out there using elite phasers. Maybe its not the main part of the build, but every bit of healing helps.
So leave a massively overpowered weapon to one side?
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# 7
05-29-2013, 05:18 PM
Perhaps the space Elite disruptors need to be changed to -5% SDR per-proc or only allow a target to be affected by one elite dis debuff total (just one per victim, not one per attacker like with APB).
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# 8
05-29-2013, 05:30 PM
I thought the Nanite weapons where created to get around this?
Otherwise the obviuos answer is to make both options availible to both factions.
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Last edited by bitemepwe; 05-29-2013 at 05:31 PM. Reason: like they want get nerfed to useless otherwise..........
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# 9
05-29-2013, 05:39 PM
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I thought the Nanite weapons where created to get around this?
Otherwise the obviuos answer is to make both options availible to both factions.
The Nanites aren't even in the same league as standard disruptors imo, much less Elite Fleet.

And yes, both procs should be available to both sides.


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Originally Posted by marc8219
Feds just got leech and now want KDF elite weapons too?

Can we please just leave somethings faction specific, KDF is losing more and more reasons to try KDF out.

Are you trying to be silly?

Outside of lolkerrat, the only thing KDF having massively better fleet weapons with a seriously powerful proc does is help put more nails in the coffin of FvK and KvK.

Who the hell wants that?

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# 10
05-29-2013, 05:50 PM
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So leave a massively overpowered weapon to one side?
Well KDF doesn't have 5 fore weapon ships or 5 tac console faction ships unless counting Romulans, this will be a lot more OP on teams with Kumari, Fleet AE and Fleet Defiants.

Maybe the fed ones should be tweaked then? If they could grant a shield resistance proc instead of a heal they would be the exact opposite of KDF elite weapons and could counter its proc, but maybe this would also be op so not sure if its a good idea.


Also one of the problems is shield resists stacking absurdly high and not enough counters to this besides elite disruptors and SNB. Maybe if more resist lowering abilites were avialable this wouldn't be so much of an issue. Tachyon beam should be made useful and lower shield resists.
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