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# 61
03-28-2013, 08:10 PM
There is only JJ Trek as canon now.

So a series would be welcome.
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# 62
03-28-2013, 08:13 PM
No.


I'm not even going to go see the new movie when it's released. Abrams Trek is just not enjoyable to me.
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# 63
03-28-2013, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by thecosmic1 View Post
Gene never declared anything canon after 1991 when he left TNG.

And even CBS doesn't consider STO canon. It's an alternate reality setting.

And anyone who thinks Star Trek canon includes constantly flying alien enemy faction ships, having bridge crews full of alien enemies (Jem'Hadar, Breen, Gorn, and Reman), and killing everything in sight probably hasn't seen much Star Trek.
Well pretty much decreed that TOS Season 3 is not canon, TAS is not canon, the Meyer's films not canon, Star Trek V not canon, and parts of TUC is not canon. He was worse than Babylon 5's JMS in declaring things not canon.

Personally, I could care less and if anyone wants to stay STO is not canon, XI is not canon, and whatever, so be it, its their opinion. I feel everything is canon in my book, some of it is an AU, and some needs to be explained a little.
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# 64
03-28-2013, 09:04 PM
Gene freely violated canon left and right whenever he felt it desirable (not necessary, just desirable) for a good story. I don't think it's either fair or productive to treat any arbitrarily-chosen set of episodes as holy writ.

Like or dislike JJ's movies on their own merits, sure; but canon doesn't enter into it.
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# 65
03-28-2013, 09:23 PM
Gene Roddenberry was no saint and the reverence being afforded him now by people who quote him as if quoting divine scripture is, at the very least, hilarious.
We can thank him for bringing us Star Trek but to be honest, if he had stayed in control of it, it would never have made it as far as it did.

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# 66
03-29-2013, 12:19 AM
No way, although it would probably work for today's generation as it's just pew pew pew compared to the prime universe's story driven shows. Good luck to them if they ever do it, but I'm not going to be watching.

I get all the Star Trek pew pew pew I need right here on STO!
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# 67
03-29-2013, 01:49 AM
I would absolutely not watch any JJ Trek reboot of TNG, or likely a any other JJ-influenced Trek series down the road. While TNG wasn't without its faults, I consdier NuTrek to be horrible. It's absolutely not anything I want to see attatched to the name 'Star Trek'. Right now it's somewhat easier to ignore because its a movie seires and not a TV series, but if it came to television, I would not be a happy camper.

What we need is either a continuation of the TNG era (ignoring the horrible Voyager ending and the Nemesis movie) or a series set between Undiscovered Country and TNG, when they had those spiffy red uniforms.

The former is a comfortable era for a lot of trek fans, I feel-and probably the most beloved era. I think there is good reason for Trek to be brought back as something familiar (with higher production values) to bring back the old fans, because lets face it, a lot of the TNG movies and later Trek content such as Voyager and Enterprise, really hurt the franchise. Trek has to go back to its roots, and while I realize that TNG isn't necessarily Trek's 'roots' in the simplest definition of the word, with three series to draw from, it is the most established 'era' of trek by far.

The latter was an era that never got a series of its own, spanning a not inconsiderable amount of time in the Trek timeline. It's an untapped goldmine, effectively. It also has the benefit of drawing from an era of trek that spawned some of the best Trek movies out there (wheras the TNG era movies are generally derided, with the exception of First Contact). TOS-movie era had a certain aesthetic and charm that hasn't been seen since, and in many ways, it's a bit more 'sensible' imagine-no awful holodeck plots! None of that silly stuff like children on board warships etc. If Trek wants to go into a more mature direction, this era would be the logical one to utilize.

That's my 2 cents.
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# 68
03-29-2013, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by eldarion79 View Post
Your not Gene Roddenberry, you can't just declare parts canon and not canon.
Most of the ships , uniforms etc are canon (except the sad "modern" ones)
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# 69
03-29-2013, 04:35 AM
Never i hate JJ ...
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# 70
03-29-2013, 04:44 AM
Maybe... but only if he create completely new crew, ship, universe. Hell no for "remaking" existing characters only because he has different vision of them. You have different idea of character? Create new which suits you. In my opinion Star Trek trade mark, and characters from TOS were added to the last movie only to attract to cinemas old fans.
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