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# 61
03-28-2013, 04:57 PM
I won't post my full build (I might put it on the skills planner at some point though) but right now I'm running:

3 x Aux DHCs
2 x [Acc]x2 [Dmg] Mk XII Phaser Turrets
1 x Kinetic Cutting Beam (for the Omega Amplifier)
Mk XI Borg Deflector (+5 Aux and Autonomous Regeneration Sequencer)
Mk XI Jem'hadar Engines (+4 Weapons)
Mk XI Borg Shields (+5 Shields and Autonomous Regeneration Sequencer)

2 x very-rare Plasma Distribution Manifold Mk XII (+8 Weapons)
Borg Console (+5 Weapons and Omega Amplifier)
Zero-Point Energy Conduit (+1.8 all Systems)
Transwarp Computer (+22.9 Warp Core Efficiency)
2 x rare Field Generators Mk XI
3 x rare Phaser Relay Mk XI (to be replaced with Mk XI purple soon)

3 x Efficient Saurians (+22.5 Warp Core Efficiency)

Captain Traits: Accurate, Warp Theorist (+10 Warp Core Potential)

9 points in:
Weapons Training/Energy Weapons/Targeting/Energy Specialization
Shield/Weapon/Aux Performance (max possible points in Shields/Weapons/Aux)
Warp Core Efficiency/Potential

With all that, my non-buffed power levels are:

W: 98/60
S: 60/25
E: 45/25
A: 125/90

There's some more tweaks I can do (Jemmie Mk XII Engine would add another 2.5 points to Weapons) and I'm hoping we get the Plasmonic Leech Fed-side at some point because this build will be crazy then

Incidentally, if anyone knows a way of pushing the power levels even higher (any Doffs that do that?) then please let me know - I think I've gotten the most possible out of the gear available in the game (well, apart from the Mk XII Jem'hadar Engine but I don't have the Lobi for that).

Last edited by brataccas; 03-28-2013 at 05:11 PM.
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# 62
03-28-2013, 05:35 PM
Oh my... The Vesta has been mothballed for performance issues (fine ship, I can just do better, and I try not to be a shameless min/maxer, but when I saw my Atrox did better for my playstyle, my Atrox it was =P Tho honestly I spend most of my time switching ships and builds and gear and running parses because for some inexplicable reason I am addicted to the math)

But I ran her similar to my Atrox... lets see if I can remember it. I fly an Aventine.

Lets start with my Atrox and mention the differences... that will be quicker I think.

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...1&postcount=10

There, that saved a ton of typing.

Of course I don't use plasma on the vesta, I use phaser. I can do more damage with plasma, but I like my quantum focus phaser for burst. Hard to say how much of it is the fact that I have better plasma tac consoles and how much of it is abusing romulan plasma consoles + the romulan set peice + my plasma torps double dipping.

2xDHC, I was using crithx2 critd last, but since I've gotten some dmgx2 accx2 ones, I'd likely try them instead. And either the romulan torp, omega torp, or a quantum.
Omega set with maco shields, adapted maco (with or without standard maco shields, your choice) or even borg set, but I favor the first on the Vesta.
KCB, some crappy phaser beam array for TSS, which ever of the torps I didnt put on the front, or a quantum, or a turret if I'm in a place I know I can newb it up and sit still facing something.

for consoles I put 2x vesta ones in the eng slots, sci gets the remaining one, my assimulated module, and either 2x romulan particle generators, -threat +plasma proc, or replace one of them with a field generator, or move a universal down and load a neutronium, or both if you are going somewhere where losing the damage for the survial is a worthy tradeoff. Tac consoles get 4x phaser relays, naturally.

The boff layout is exactly the same, except in place of eng team 3 I get torp spread 1. It works out, the Vesta has a smaller hull so you don't notice the missing eng team so much. The Atrox takes a lot of heals to get full.

A torp boat works too, and that ends up very similar to my Atrox, but the Vesta whispers, "Put cannons on me, its smexy!"

Edit: I can make her do more damage then that, by going more heavily tac, but this is how I end up back in my Atrox. To match the DPS of the Atrox with her 2 hangar bays I have to spec more tac, but that takes away from my sci to do so. The Atrox brings both, so I bring the Atrox, unless I'm really not feeling like dealing with her turn rate that day.

Edit2: Oh, I also replace the attack pattern beta with cannon scatter volley, less scorps means less return on AP:B. Either is good, really, even on the Vesta, but CSV gives me a "poor mans point defense" taking out torps and such... coin toss or personal prefference... I have TBR to accomplish point defense if I need it, and intercept mode. That is how I do it in the Atrox.
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Last edited by kimmym; 03-28-2013 at 06:10 PM.
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# 63
03-28-2013, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by kimmym View Post
Oh my... The Vesta has been mothballed for performance issues (fine ship, I can just do better, and I try not to be a shameless min/maxer, but when I saw my Atrox did better for my playstyle, my Atrox it was =P Tho honestly I spend most of my time switching ships and builds and gear and running parses because for some inexplicable reason I am addicted to the math)
Yours certainly looks a lot more durable than mine lol!

Unfortunately in pursuit of 'max DPS/max Aux' my Vesta (the Sci one) has ended up without the reassurance of Alloys or MACO - it's not so bad since the Autonomous Regeneration Sequencer kicks in once I start taking damage but you have to know when to run away

It kind of forces you down a certain route in terms of gear but I like the play-style it brings with it - also, because of the high-power levels you can always put all that weapons power into shields which drops the DPS the rear weapons do but gets me:

W: 76/25 (!)
S: 86/60
E: 45/25
A: 125/90

Which is pretty fricking neat - especially if/when the Omega Weapons Amplifier triggers

Edit: Oh, I should note that whilst I do Elite STFs in this ship just fine, I wouldn't dream of PvP'ing in it - it sacrifices too much for DPS - my Tac's got a MVAE for PvP (although I mostly PvP KDF-side in my B'rel)

Last edited by brataccas; 03-28-2013 at 05:52 PM.
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# 64
03-28-2013, 05:46 PM
I'm confused. What's this "debate" have to do with the original topic of the thread?
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# 65
03-28-2013, 05:48 PM
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I'm confused. What's this "debate" have to do with the original topic of the thread?
Lol! We were done with that a few posts back - 'working as intended' - but not how we'd like it
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# 66
03-28-2013, 05:53 PM
Now we are just basking in the glow of realizing that after all that vitriol, we weren't really angry at eachother, just that troll at the bottom of the first page scored a 11/10.

Group hug!

Edit: I, also, do not PvP, other then seriously gimped efforts in Ker'rat once in a blue moon.
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Last edited by kimmym; 03-28-2013 at 05:55 PM.
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# 67
03-28-2013, 05:58 PM
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Edit: I, also, do not PvP, other then seriously gimped efforts in Ker'rat once in a blue moon.
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# 68
03-28-2013, 06:01 PM
I have a KDF tac, poorly geared... I should try that out tho, she does look sweet!
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# 69
03-28-2013, 06:06 PM
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I have a KDF tac, poorly geared... I should try that out tho, she does look sweet!
You know you want one
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# 70
03-28-2013, 07:55 PM
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I, also, do not PvP,
A lot of people avoid PvP. Cryptic had some metrics about it awhile back. It was used as their reason for not allocating any development time or resources to it. So I wouldn't feel too bad for avoiding it.
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