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# 21
03-30-2013, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by spork87 View Post
nope, and for a few reasons i can think off of the top of my head. Following the destruction of Romulas the Klingon Empire invaded and slaughtered many Romulans. Also lets add to the fact that Romulan's hate Klingons, that has been a constant for 100+ years at this point.

The Romulan stratagy is also to side with who is stronger, they are survivalists and the Federation is in a much stronger position right now than the Klingons. Let's also consider the Unification of Vulcan's and Romulan's this is a current agenda of the new Republic so why would they cast aside there long term goals?

As for world PVP no thank you, I have no interest in open world PVP, how would you implement it, that you could attack on sight? I'm sorry but nope, and the other method is manually flagging for PVP which also won't work people don't tend to flag themselves, and Cryptic will not make another server just for PVP to occur you can keep dreaming though.

Also lets not forget that as much as the PVP community likes to think, the core of the game is not centered on PVP, its on grinding things, and grinding is PVE not PVP. Most players strictly do PVE content as well so balancing the game around PVP is a terrible idea.

In the end there are far more reasons why no Romulan would ever wan't to work with a Klingon than with one.

The Romulan stratagy is also to side with who is stronger <-
they sided with the Duras Sisters... who lost the Klingon Civil War after Picard stopped their Romulan help.

The Romulans help whoever agrees with their goals and/or can be controlled to do their bidding.



"Let's also consider the Unification of Vulcan's and Romulan's this is a current agenda of the new Republic so why would they cast aside there long term goals?"

IMHO, and that is just my opinion -> SELA is in the game, so USE her, D'Tan is a wuzz, he has done nothing so far to earn my loyalty and wants to get back together with Vulcan, Vulcans that DENIED to help the Romulans when the Hobus Star problem became known!

Look at Nero's feelings towards the Federation and Vulcan because of this whole thing.

D'Tan may carry on Spocks torch as unificationist, but leaders change quickly these days. As a Romulan Citizen i would not expect him to survive 2409. Not if he is the wuzz that STOs Playerbase feels he is.... but maybe he is really a Bad A*s and we just don't know it yet? We wll see if he is worthy to be followed. imho the only thing that speaks for him by now is that he has the Support of Obisek, and that dude is cool.

"As for world PVP no thank you"
*shrug* PVP needs to be better, an open PvP Sector War would just be logical for a game like this. Add a PvP Reputation system on top of it and many more would join, there just needs to be actual fun content (Maps / Modes) and Incentive (Rep System) and it would work just fine. We just need the Player numbers to back it up, but with a 18% KDF faction, that would just not be balanced.


"In the end there are far more reasons why no Romulan would ever wan't to work with a Klingon than with one."

-> In the end the Soldiers will follow where the leaders will take them.
If Sela says help Duras, then it will be so, if Jempok (enemy of Martok and friend of Duras iirc) says let the Romulans on our Starbases and sell them tech + some story reason, like the War is going badly for the KDF, we need support or we loose... then having some Romulan and Reman cannon fodder to throw at the Feds would be just fine IMHO.

Also also lets not forget:
- there was an exchange of the D-7 Class for Cloaking Device tech.
- there are Klingons who lived peacefully together with Romulans on a Prison colony, their Children were set free
- Romulans and Klingons fought the Dominion side by side, which was the biggest war in recent history, doesn't matter if the Feds were holding them together.
- Even Worf said "the Romulans fought with honor" in Nemesis... if WORF can change his opinion, who let a Romulan DIE because he did not want to give him his blood... then the Dominion War might have changed some opinions too i'd say.
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# 22
03-30-2013, 08:31 AM
From a game play POV it's a bad idea
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# 23
03-30-2013, 08:34 AM
I have a better idea, remove the KDF from the game entirely.
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# 24
03-30-2013, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by zerobang View Post
IMHO, and that is just my opinion -> SELA is in the game, so USE her, D'Tan is a wuzz, he has done nothing so far to earn my loyalty and wants to get back together with Vulcan, Vulcans that DENIED to help the Romulans when the Hobus Star problem became known!
omg soo this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ im happy to see im not the only one who cant eat this crap
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# 25
03-30-2013, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by p41nm4k3r View Post
I have a better idea, remove the KDF from the game entirely.
You mean the KDF conqueres the Federation.

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# 26
03-30-2013, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by lostusthorn View Post
You mean the KDF conqueres the Federation.
Only if they are deleted afterwards.
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# 27
03-30-2013, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by zerobang View Post
The Romulan stratagy is also to side with who is stronger <-
they sided with the Duras Sisters... who lost the Klingon Civil War after Picard stopped their Romulan help.

The Romulans help whoever agrees with their goals and/or can be controlled to do their bidding.



"Let's also consider the Unification of Vulcan's and Romulan's this is a current agenda of the new Republic so why would they cast aside there long term goals?"

IMHO, and that is just my opinion -> SELA is in the game, so USE her, D'Tan is a wuzz, he has done nothing so far to earn my loyalty and wants to get back together with Vulcan, Vulcans that DENIED to help the Romulans when the Hobus Star problem became known!

Look at Nero's feelings towards the Federation and Vulcan because of this whole thing.

D'Tan may carry on Spocks torch as unificationist, but leaders change quickly these days. As a Romulan Citizen i would not expect him to survive 2409. Not if he is the wuzz that STOs Playerbase feels he is.... but maybe he is really a Bad A*s and we just don't know it yet? We wll see if he is worthy to be followed. imho the only thing that speaks for him by now is that he has the Support of Obisek, and that dude is cool.

"As for world PVP no thank you"
*shrug* PVP needs to be better, an open PvP Sector War would just be logical for a game like this. Add a PvP Reputation system on top of it and many more would join, there just needs to be actual fun content (Maps / Modes) and Incentive (Rep System) and it would work just fine. We just need the Player numbers to back it up, but with a 18% KDF faction, that would just not be balanced.


"In the end there are far more reasons why no Romulan would ever wan't to work with a Klingon than with one."

-> In the end the Soldiers will follow where the leaders will take them.
If Sela says help Duras, then it will be so, if Jempok (enemy of Martok and friend of Duras iirc) says let the Romulans on our Starbases and sell them tech + some story reason, like the War is going badly for the KDF, we need support or we loose... then having some Romulan and Reman cannon fodder to throw at the Feds would be just fine IMHO.

Also also lets not forget:
- there was an exchange of the D-7 Class for Cloaking Device tech.
- there are Klingons who lived peacefully together with Romulans on a Prison colony, their Children were set free
- Romulans and Klingons fought the Dominion side by side, which was the biggest war in recent history, doesn't matter if the Feds were holding them together.
- Even Worf said "the Romulans fought with honor" in Nemesis... if WORF can change his opinion, who let a Romulan DIE because he did not want to give him his blood... then the Dominion War might have changed some opinions too i'd say.
no world PVP that is one thing that is a terrible idea plain and simple, can't you PVPers stay in your dark corner and play with the 5% of the playerbase that enjoys PVP and leave the rest of us alone?

I will say this, its very annoying to hear the PVP crowd whine and moan all the time that they want changes, when they are a minority a very small one at that. This entire request is based purly on PVP QQ which IMO is just stupid.

As far as Romulans working with the Klingots it makes no sense in Star Trek at all, the Klingons don't want an Ally they want a slave, but they know if they try to conquer Romulan space out right they end up in a state of full blown war with the Federation, one they couldn't win, despite what you klingots think, this isn't a state of open war, because I'm not getting any missions to do orbital bombardments of your industrial facilities yet.
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# 28
03-30-2013, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by chalpen View Post
Why would any of the new romulans join the kdf?
Less missions, ships, customization.
Unles you force the romulans to join the kdf, the kdf will remember the "good old days of the 18%"
The Romulan content should take a new captain to level 40 without having to worry too much about Federation or Klingon missions. So number of missions should be a non-issue. As for ships... if getting to fly a Starfleet vessel is a deciding factor for you, why play a Romulan at all? Customization is mostly tied into races, which the Romulans won't use, and uniforms, which the Romulans can't use.

On the Klingon side of things... the KDF has better special consoles and more end-game missions. My Rommie is going to roll KDF, and if Cryptic decided to balance the PVP queue's by forcing Romulans to queue as Klingons, I wouldn't mind much.
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# 29
03-30-2013, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by spork87 View Post
no world PVP that is one thing that is a terrible idea plain and simple, can't you PVPers stay in your dark corner and play with the 5% of the playerbase that enjoys PVP and leave the rest of us alone?

I will say this, its very annoying to hear the PVP crowd whine and moan all the time that they want changes, when they are a minority a very small one at that. This entire request is based purly on PVP QQ which IMO is just stupid.

As far as Romulans working with the Klingots it makes no sense in Star Trek at all, the Klingons don't want an Ally they want a slave, but they know if they try to conquer Romulan space out right they end up in a state of full blown war with the Federation, one they couldn't win, despite what you klingots think, this isn't a state of open war, because I'm not getting any missions to do orbital bombardments of your industrial facilities yet.
FYI: i am NOT a PVPer.
PVP in STO sux, and i don't touch it as long as i don't have to. (only in Jupiter Force Fleet events really... those are well organized and one or two times a month. There we make up our own rules, like shuttle PvP or Jem'Hadar vs. Fed etc. but nobody gets me into the PvP queue)

I don't mind playing against other players, i played a lot of competetive games since the days of Star Trek Elite Force / Unreal Tournament 2004 / Battlefield etc. ok that was more shooter genre but who cares. I'm not opposed to play PvP IF IT IS DONE WELL.

In STO it is not. And it is not getting better by doing nothing.

And i can assure you there are more than 5% of the Playerbase like me who just lean back and wait for Cryptic to finally do something to PvP that makes it fun.



"This entire request is based purly on PVP QQ which IMO is just stupid."

mmmh... nope i pretty clearly stated in the OP that it is about Queue times in general, PvE and PvP, i don't make a distinction there only because i mostly ignore the one that hides in shame behind the bermuda triangle menu.

I'm mostly annoyed that i can't get fleetactions to pop at all and that it can take 10 minutes for any Fleet Mark grind mission to start if you try to play at the wrong time of the day.

Personally i'm mostly DOffing and working on my little DOff Sheet anyway + the occasional STF.
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# 30
03-30-2013, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by zerobang View Post
Ships -> you want to fly FED / KDF ships with your Romulan? WHY?
Because nothing beats a Mirror Patrol Escort for looks, that's why!

Granted, I probably won't be bothering with a Romulan unless you must fly a warbird to be competitive in PvP and warbirds are exclusive to Romulans.
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