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# 1 T2 Constitution-class for STFs
03-26-2013, 11:02 AM
Since CBS isn't willing to allow Cryptic to make the Constitution-class T5, I would like to see what types of builds would be viable for an STF for the starship. Now, most would say that the T2 ship is underpowered and has a very weak defense. In my experience working with shuttles, a good build can withstand a fair amount of damage while inflicting sufficient in return. I would like to challenge the community to come up with a build for the T2 Constitution-class that could not only survive an STF, but be victorious.

This is my current TOS Constitution-class build suggestions and critiques are welcome.

Fore Weapons
Tetryon Beam Array Mk XII
Quantum Torpedo Launcher Mk XII

Aft Weapons
Tetryon Turret Mk XII

Deflector
Borg Mk XI

Shields
Borg Mk XI

Engines
Borg Mk XI

Devices
Weapons Battery
Shield Battery

ENG
Monotanium Alloy Mk XII
Electroceramic Hull Plating Mk XII

SCI
Shield Emitter Amplifier Mk XI

TAC
Tetryon Pulse Generator Mk XII
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# 2
03-26-2013, 12:39 PM
A shuttle is SO MUCH faster that it is harder to hit. Still a shuttle or the Connie cannot contribute enough to an STF, even if you just TRY to blow up Probes with your core breaches...

YOU COULD DO IT, IF... you could put a Constitution skin on a T5 ship like the Excelsior Retrofit or Ambassador retrofit.

Sorry...
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# 3
03-26-2013, 01:02 PM
If you had 100% uptime on emergency power shields 1 and put 100 power into weapons with a dual beam bank instead of a Beam Array you would do as much damage as you are likely to in a Connie with as much surviveability you can get with the ship.

A couple of Conn doffs for Tac team is also advisable... beyond that however I'm fresh out of ideas
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# 4
03-26-2013, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by velqua View Post
Since CBS isn't willing to allow Cryptic to make the Constitution-class T5, I would like to see what types of builds would be viable for an STF for the starship. Now, most would say that the T2 ship is underpowered and has a very weak defense. In my experience working with shuttles, a good build can withstand a fair amount of damage while inflicting sufficient in return. I would like to challenge the community to come up with a build for the T2 Constitution-class that could not only survive an STF, but be victorious.

This is my current TOS Constitution-class build suggestions and critiques are welcome.

Fore Weapons
Tetryon Beam Array Mk XII
Quantum Torpedo Launcher Mk XII

Aft Weapons
Tetryon Turret Mk XII

Deflector
Borg Mk XI

Shields
Borg Mk XI

Engines
Borg Mk XI

Devices
Weapons Battery
Shield Battery

ENG
Monotanium Alloy Mk XII
Electroceramic Hull Plating Mk XII

SCI
Shield Emitter Amplifier Mk XI

TAC
Tetryon Pulse Generator Mk XII
Please do other players a favor and do not use that ship in pugs. The ship will not contribute enough, no matter the build, to be helpful to players who are going into it not know that you are handicapping yourself (and the match). If people know going in thats one thing, but surprising a pug team with it is inconsiderate.
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# 5
03-26-2013, 01:24 PM
He did not mention pugging at all. He said this was a challenge, and politely asked for input, not to be crucified by the STF inquisition...
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# 6
03-26-2013, 01:28 PM
You say T2 Connie in thread title and OP but the ship you describe is the T1 TOS bundle boat. Which is it?


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# 7
03-26-2013, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by smokeybacon90 View Post
He did not mention pugging at all. He said this was a challenge, and politely asked for input, not to be crucified by the STF inquisition...
One of the ways that many people link up to do some missions is through pugs, therefore its a possibility that he might to that. I'm not crucifying him at all, just asking that he be courteous of others, should he consider using it in pugs. The suggestion of the challenge indicates an intention of using it in that type of situation. I have seen lower tier ships running around in STF's, no matter the build they handicap the group. Other players should be allowed to know that this ship, no matter how well the build, is coming and will create a possible hindrance to the outcome. Just common courtesy.
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# 8
03-26-2013, 03:04 PM
What about Normal STFs, like ISN? The people who grouch and complain about terrible STFs usually stay away from those, since it's a cesspool of novice, "Technicolor Beam Boat" players.

It wouldn't make much of a difference there, is what I'm getting at. A well prepped T2 Constitution could easily outdo a Technicolor Odyssey with teamwork, buff/debuff coordination and superb handling and control.

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# 9
03-26-2013, 06:16 PM
First, I guess I didn't realize that the TOS Connie was different than the T2 Connie. In any case, let's look at it from the T2 Connie since that would have a slight advantage over the TOS one.

Second, the point of the challenge is to produce an durable and viable ship to use in an STF Normal run, whether it be private or pug. People spend a lot of time building different ships on here, it would be nice to have some of the effort focused on a ship that most, if not all, Trekkies enjoy. Plus, it gives those players who are at that lower level a chance to see what can be done with a low level ship.

Third, I have been in many different STFs where the so-called "best ships" fail epically while the worst seem to actually do well and survive. Of course, I have see the reverse as well. I too have become enraged because players are not guarding Kang, they blow up the cube, they go to the wrong side, or they stay too focused on one kill that they let the probes slip by. And like some of you on here, I have entered an STF just to have some fun with any ship I wanted to try out--including a shuttle and a Tuffli (back when the loading glitch existed). So I do understand the anxiety that the STFers get when people start to mention using lower tier ships in STF. No one likes to hear those blue TOS phasers firing while trying to get optional.

Again, I offer a challenge to the community to create a build could be used to be both viable and fun to fly during an STF, even if it is Normal.
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# 10
03-26-2013, 08:42 PM
First can the Tetryons and use the Experimental Romulan Plasma BA, and the hyper plasma Torpedo. The plasma console and the Romulan ZPE console. That would be the best chance to use the T2 Connie.
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