Yes, the 18% number needs to be seriously retired.
Originally Posted by fraghul2000
Furthermore, Cryptic would simply be stupid to release exact and detailed numbers and statistics about their playerbase and reveal their method of data collection, simply because an angry, 1-person forum mob demands it. Doing so would just make their competitors very, very happy.
Percentages don't matter as much as the raw number of actual Klingon captains. Don't forget that the game pop has grown twofold, if not more, since F2p, so an 18% today could correspond to a hell of lot more players than the 18% did a few years ago.
The history of Cryptic-STo player relations in a nutshell:
Cryptic threw me under a bus, slapped me in the face, and hates my ships/faction. That's a strawman argument! That's a no true scotsman fallacy! That been said ad infinitum, ad nauseum. X ship is OP, nerf plz. Carriers are OP! Look it up in the dictionary! Say no, say yes to Arc. Synergy?
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Given that this is perhaps the second most trivial statistic with regard to player profitability out there, do you really think they haven't considered it?
It's not that they haven't considered it. It's just incompetence.
I'll lay it out real simple.
They release STO as a 2-faction game with 1 being woefully unfinished. For the entire history of STO being live, they have never made the two factions equal in ground/space options, uniforms, nor even faction unique storylines. For 3 years, the KDF, having received some attention, are still nowhere near the same ballpark as the Federation.
They release a 2-faction game and never made it a truly 2-faction game. With the Romulans in a few months, the poor fools can't even fight together as Romulans, but instead will be blowing each other up as proxies to their rivals. The Romulans will be in the end, sort of in a worse state than the KDF were when STO released. The Romulans aren't an independent faction like the KDF is. They will be a subfaction to both the Federation and Klingons.
Sure I hate the fact we have been screwed.. even the Bortasqu' was just a folating pile of junk compared to the oddyssey.
But this 18% thing... being circumstances what they are might be accurate. I mean think about it... Queues are NEVER open... FEDs get INSTANT pvp and Queues, KDF NEVER has any map w/ more than 5 KDF.... First City and Academy has maybe 1..2..3 instances? FEDs have 30+ intances for BOTH?
KDF lags less. FED lag more... probally cuase of players
But seriously I cant really say. I never go on FEDs and I even deleted my lvl 25 fed cause I hated it.... and therefore though I could have 2 KDFs.. (Wrong lol) so now I have 1 FED (8) and 5 KDF Captians (21) (23) (50)x3. So idk if true but they really should not use size as an excuse... cause they do that YET forget the matter "WHY"
This is like Christmas at my in-laws. No one is happy. There is a new thread about how the Feds aren't getting anything with the release of LoR.
I'm with Roach - own it.
Also, realize that every time Cryptic adds something to the game, it benefits all players in some form or fashion.
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My intentions weren't to start a feud here. I was curious if anyone had heard of any new quotes on percentages because it seems, I stress seems, that there are more on the KDF side than what there used to be.
If this is the case then it indicates that with more to do over on the red side that it has attracted more people which is a good thing, both for Cryptic and the KDF fan base.
I don't like dredging up old arguments but there were a couple posts on here that beg for a reply. 1st off the KDF has been hamstrung from the get go so any numbers they can quote are illegitimate because you can't really gauge how well that faction will do compared to another faction who has plenty of content. Content makes the faction, it's the key to how well it will be received and dictates how many players it will have. If you reversed the roles/situations of both factions in this game does anyone truly believe the blue side would be in any better shape?
Secondly if the folks who play the KDF show a trend of staying with that faction and continuing to play it then it says the KDF is worth investing in. Because retention is just as important as overall numbers.
Thirdly a straight head count doesn't factor in all the variables such as retention, time spent on faction, etc. So the percentage doesn't prove anything especially when one faction has been hobbled while the other has been encouraged to grow with loads of content and is a gateway for creating a character on the other side. Hopefully this new season will remove the rope tying the KDF's legs together.
And lastly let's take Roach's advise and just own the moniker and be proud to be the 12, 16, 18 or whatever percentage that plays the KDF.
The only thing that counts is sales - so if you don't have every KDF ship - in the next sale pick up 3 or 5.
Those are the only metrics they care about.
As it goes they(so far) are backward looking - rather than put out a really good new C-store ship and see how it sells - they wait to see how many more of the existing ships sell - then use that lack of sales to justify the waiting on putting out a new ship.
And the cycle continues.
Last edited by born2bwild1; 04-02-2013 at 03:44 PM.