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# 191
04-06-2013, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by drkfrontiers View Post
Sadly we have the branchild of the Narada to thanks for that ghastly approach....
Yeah cause all the fed ships look like a connie.......
I thought I took the Blue Pill.......
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# 192
04-06-2013, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by gazurtoid View Post
LOL at the reference to the D'Deredix having firepower equivalent to a Galaxy-class. That's not something to boast about in STO

The Science ship (an upscaled redress of the Shuttle) which appeared in the episode where Geordi/Ro got phase cloaked, would be a very good addition, maybe as a C-Store vessel for the Roms to give them a Science ship.

Given the more limited number of canon ships available for the Romulans, I'd like to see Cryptic innovate and see what their design team can come up with to pad out the roster a bit more.
The episode was "The Next Phase" and it wasn't a redress of the shuttle it was actually a modified version of the Romulan scout ship. We have seen neither mentioned for the new faction release-so far.
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# 193
04-06-2013, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by trintrektron View Post
As an added consequence of their unique Warp Core, Warbirds create a deadly Singularity implosion when they are destroyed.

Very interesting!
Indeed. Ramming speed and Abandon ship might finally become usefull to destroy other ships?
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# 194
04-06-2013, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by psycoticvulcan View Post
In the Titan novels, the class is called Mogai. Norexum is from some other novel. Neither are canon, but Mogai is the one Cryptic chose to go with.
I've read neither set of novels so I'm not certain if the Mogai(mogwai) or the Norexan class ships refer to classes of Warbirds or what. In the game these are called escorts, but if these are suppose to reference the same ship as the IRW Valdore then it was never intended to be an escort, but was in fact the most up to date Warbird seen on screen.
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# 195
04-06-2013, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dalnar83 View Post
What do you mean "fluffly flavor text"? How could they justify DD with better turn rate and firepower than Galaxy ? Maybe they actually need release this horrible DD, so the forums explode and they finally realize that low turn rate makes ships extremely unfun.
I honestly believe when the ships are being developed the devs misunderstand how the D'Deridex is slower than a Galaxy class starship, in canon. It isn't that the design necessarily has a slower turn rate- in fact it was perfectly capable of running down a much more agile Romulan scout ship in the episode "Defector".

But in canon the D'Deridex is slower than a Galaxy class in overall warp speed. A Warbird pushed to warp 9.6 over taxes the engine design and causes irreparable damage. Somehow this translates into slower FTL speed and less combat maneuverable.
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# 196
04-06-2013, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by alopen View Post
So Romulans are getting ships that cloak and don't turn well. Why is everyone surprised? Its good news that Cryptic has a theme for the pseudo factions ships. If you didn't see lack of ships coming when they announced the alliance system, well I just don't know what to say.

What I want is more details on the

1)Singularity Core
2)Romulan cloak being the same as KDF cloak or different
3)weapons for Romulans.

No one seems to notice that in game Romulan reputation system hands out plasma energy weapons, yet the blog clearly states that Romulans use disruptors and plasma weaponry. The current Romulan 3 piece set is subpar. I'm still holding out hope that Romulans can use much improved plasma torpedos, because immersion kinda requires that Romulans dont decloak and hit people with quantums or cannons. A decloaking beam boat is laughable and with global torp CD, how is anyone going to fear Warbirds without cannons.
To be correct, disrupt or cannons are very much a canon weapon on Warbirds of both on screen classes. They were used often on the D'Deridex(which also has a forward disrupt or beam) and they were shown as the exclusive weapon used by the Valdore at the battle of Bassen Rift.
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# 197
04-06-2013, 07:28 AM
Well, they seem to definitely keep the playable D'deridex in line with he NPC critter one in the ponderous ship that slows its target down to its speed and then mercilessly pummels it with volleys of plasma firepower.

In a way, due to the critter using cloak so very little, that might be how they felt the D'deridex currently represented in-game and they're just sticking to it.

Also, having just watched "Defector", the warbird was pacing its pursuit of the scoutship - apparently, it was supposed to be 'even faster' if it had truly wanted to catch up.
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# 198
04-06-2013, 08:10 AM
Are Warbird cloaking devices going to be superior to Klingon cloaking devices? I mean, will it be harder (but not impossible) to detect their ships while cloaked? If the D'deridex-class are to turn slower than a Galaxy-class, then I hope Cryptic is making the Romulan play style more cloak dependent using their superior firepower, otherwise we'll just have a rehash of the other factions, and slow turning ships are really a joy killer in "hold your ground" or "hit and run" gameplay.
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# 199
04-06-2013, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by amosov78 View Post
Are Warbird cloaking devices going to be superior to Klingon cloaking devices?
No, we had ample evidence its the contrary since we never hear about Klingon cloaking devices having problems outside the D12 that had issues.

Romulan ships on the other hand had a lot of issues, the only argument they bring up is the Scimitar but ignore the D'deridex, also the Defiant that was equipped with a romulan cloaking device could not even use its transporter without decloaking.

Also we have Chang Bird-of-Prey, the Klingons managed to fire without breaking cloak centuries before the Romulans could.

The only people that are arguing about it are doing so because they want a Battlecloak on all Romulan ships, nevermind the fact Battlecloak is simply Cryptic attempting at balance since no such thing existed and all Cloaking devices worked like the Battlecloak ... without a timer.

Well that and wanting a B'rel without the 3 seconds visibility when firing ... on a battlecruiser (Scimitar), funny how whinny Feds cried about the B'rel being unfair but moment they can make a Federation Romulan its fine to be OP and use weapons that were banned by treaty.
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# 200
04-06-2013, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by f2pdrakron View Post
Romulan ships on the other hand had a lot of issues, the only argument they bring up is the Scimitar but ignore the D'deridex, also the Defiant that was equipped with a romulan cloaking device could not even use its transporter without decloaking.
I wasn't actually asking for the ability to fire while cloaked, however wouldn't a number of features of the Scimitar's cloak, accounting for advancements, now be standard amongst Romulan vessels by 2409?
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