Captain
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# 101
04-07-2013, 02:24 AM
I don't think this is one you can win born2bwild1 , but it was a worthy attempt .

Something is rotten in STOville , and the splitting of the Rommy's is just a symptom and a middle road solution .

I suspect that is is a middle road solution because I think that if they implement the Rommy split faction thing , the next faction won't stop there and will give access too all ships of all factions .

MUST SELL ! SELL !! SELL !!!

The current Not Season 8 is just the thick smoke that is a prelude of a fire sale (that is intended to squeeze out whatever money is left in this game) .
STO will be out of Beta in another 2-4 years ???
... you know after another 3 story arc remasters, crafting revamp, skills revamp, PVP upgrade ...
*note : the 2-4 year guesstimate came out of comparing Cryptic's Dev speed and that of a snail . Sadly the snail won .
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# 102
04-07-2013, 02:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aelfwin1 View Post
I don't think this is one you can win born2bwild1 , but it was a worthy attempt .

Something is rotten in STOville , and the splitting of the Rommy's is just a symptom and a middle road solution .

I suspect that is is a middle road solution because I think that if they implement the Rommy split faction thing , the next faction won't stop there and will give access too all ships of all factions .

MUST SELL ! SELL !! SELL !!!

The current Not Season 8 is just the thick smoke that is a prelude of a fire sale (that is intended to squeeze out whatever money is left in this game) .
Cause: Game decides to go F2P
They Cry: Your dumbing down the game! This is just a quick cash grab before they dump STO
Effect: Playerbase drastically increases in size, content drought ends.

Cause: Lockboxes and keys
They Cry: Cash grab! Game will loose license!
Effect: Massive injection of cash allows dev team to grow to double size and starts work on rommie faction plus other stuff.

Cause: Romulans as mini faction
They Cry: See above quote
Predicted Effect: Droves of former players return to experience new content, some stay some leave. New blood also joins in large numbers creating an even larger standard playerbase retention. A new lockbox performs well as does other stuff. Cardassian mini faction development begins, doff system overhaul begins to promote more CCG elements and to be easier for porting to external clients such as smart phones, and game engine gets significant TLC work performed from the new software employees hired.
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# 103
04-07-2013, 02:53 AM
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Cause: Game decides to go F2P
They Cry: Your dumbing down the game! This is just a quick cash grab before they dump STO
Effect: Playerbase drastically increases in size, content drought ends.

Cause: Lockboxes and keys
They Cry: Cash grab! Game will loose license!
Effect: Massive injection of cash allows dev team to grow to double size and starts work on rommie faction plus other stuff.

Cause: Romulans as mini faction
They Cry: See above quote
Predicted Effect: Droves of former players return to experience new content, some stay some leave. New blood also joins in large numbers creating an even larger standard playerbase retention. A new lockbox performs well as does other stuff. Cardassian mini faction development begins, doff system overhaul begins to promote more CCG elements and to be easier for porting to external clients such as smart phones, and game engine gets significant TLC work performed from the new software employees hired.
Exactly. Romulan toons aren't even here yet and we already have bitter vet syndrome rife in these forums. It's mental.
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# 104
04-07-2013, 03:36 AM
"Fleet leaders need to boycott Romulans ships" - Controlling much?
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# 105
04-07-2013, 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by bareel View Post
Cause: Game decides to go F2P
They Cry: Your dumbing down the game! This is just a quick cash grab before they dump STO
Effect: Playerbase drastically increases in size, content drought ends.
I was not on that train , but I was against the butchering of the STF's .

Quote:
Cause: Lockboxes and keys
They Cry: Cash grab! Game will loose license!
Effect: Massive injection of cash allows dev team to grow to double size and starts work on rommie faction plus other stuff.
I was on the "this is gambling" train there and I have no regrets as as it was introduced , it was very akin to gambling .
The have sweetened the pot since then and made a real effort to produce secondary prizes of value (see Lobi store) .
I don't think they would have done so if the backlash against the original Lockbox model was as great as it was .
You're welcome to think differently . I won't ask for anyone's thanks .

Quote:
Cause: Romulans as mini faction
A mini faction indeed .
Yet with some rights that overshadow the existing factions .
Nope , still not Kosher .


Quote:
Predicted Effect: Droves of former players return to experience new content, some stay some leave.
Someone has posted a translated poll from the German STO forums , where 55% voted for the "this is not what I was expecting" option after the last Q&A w/DSahl came out and the actual meaning of the "full Romulan faction" came to light .

Me thinks that be the sample of the returning players opinion -- after they get sold on the idea to try the "Romulan Faction" in STO .
I'm hoping for Cryptic's sake that I am wrong .

Quote:
New blood also joins in large numbers creating an even larger standard playerbase retention. A new lockbox performs well as does other stuff.
Oh I have no doubt that we'll see new and returning players , the question is what will they think ?
As to the Lockboxes / C-store ships -- I have said it before that the Rommy's ships are the last 'canon' bullets Cryptic has (save for Borg ships) .
So yes , they will do well , they are even bound to do well , but that is an illusion if the future is judged by those sales .


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Cardassian mini faction development begins, doff system overhaul begins to promote
And other stuff , I get it .
Point is , the game's story won't move forward , and the Iconians won't invade .
They have side stepped the Iconian invasion with the Tholians , the Romulans (for 2 seasons now) and I have no doubt that they will side step it some more . A lot more .

At this point it's still 2409 , and we have been Marching in Neutral for 2+ years .
Fun ! Not so much .
STO will be out of Beta in another 2-4 years ???
... you know after another 3 story arc remasters, crafting revamp, skills revamp, PVP upgrade ...
*note : the 2-4 year guesstimate came out of comparing Cryptic's Dev speed and that of a snail . Sadly the snail won .

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# 106 Dear Fleet Leaders;
04-07-2013, 04:41 AM
Hello Fleetleaders, by the end of next month I, and many like me, will be making a Romulan character. Personally, I will be allying myself with the KDF, but other Romulans will seek allies in Starfleet. I don't get a chance to play often, but when I do I work hard. I have my eyes set on a fleet T'Liss Bird of Prey, I don't know if such a thing exists yet but if it does, I will need to buy one.

That's where you come in, Fleet Leader, I will need a Fleet Starbase with a space dock and requisitions necessary to purchase this end game ship. Now I understand, alot of hard work and sweat went into upgrading your Starbase so that it could supply my needs. I do not expect to be given the access. So you set a price, do you wish to do this as a simple payment of Energy Credits? I'm already looking to spend 20 bucks in Fleet Ship Modules, I suppose throwing down another 5-10 to raise a few million credits is not out of line. Do you want my help in upcoming projects? I'm willing to work and contribute, just let me know what amount of fleet experience you want to see before you think I've earned access to ship requisitions. Do you want me to commit to being available for fleet activities? I understand community is the lifeblood of a fleet, send me your schedule I'll see if its compatible with mine, you have a link on your website yes?

And just to piss of the right kind of people, after I requisition my Romulan ship, I'm going to requisition the most iconic Klingon vessel I can get my hands on, I'm thinking a Fleet Vorcha. Are there any extra requirements for spite requisitions?
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# 107
04-07-2013, 04:53 AM
I wouldn't mind if the fleets could stop Romulans from buying their factions ships.
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, Xindi carrier, Xindi escort, and the T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The rule needs to change.
Captain
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# 108
04-07-2013, 05:37 AM
You have to remember there are only 3-4 romulan ships - that we know of.

That's 1 end game ship for an entire faction.

It's really the point in question, being where we are now, would you rather release a faction with just 1 ship to fly, or, does it make more sense to try to sell some old ships?
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# 109
04-07-2013, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by born2bwild1 View Post
No-one seems to get the point - fleets can make a decision for their members - based on a principle that is upheld by most fleet - everyone gets equal access.

Therefore - if everyone does not get equal access - the fleet will tell members that Romulan toons can only build Romulan fleet ships.

This is a blatantly unfair policy - if enough fleets make the choice to require equal access then maybe cryptic will change its policy.
No, you don't seem to get the Point. It's not about you, it's about the ROMULANS. They just lost their original home world.....it's GONE...blowed up, that are scattered about now. So yes they deserve a little special treatment. Dual access, including allied fleet ships. Story wise it makes sense that there are so few Romulan ships now, they lost their entire infrastructure so Feds/kdf are not allowed access to what little ships they have left. Your Planet Earth is still sitting there nice and pretty, you don't need any special treatment..they do.
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# 110
04-07-2013, 06:03 AM
op. if your opposed that much to romulans getting fleet ships from yoru fleet, why not just say "no romulans allowed" for your fleet? becasue currently thats the only way its going to work. you can say "do it this way" people wont listen, its common knowledge, The honor system rarely works.


I personally could care less what any other Player spends their earned fleet credits, and possibly EC or real money on for fleet ships. if you got a romulan who wants to buy every fleet ship they can, so long as they are willing to fund the provisioning projects, i say let them.
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