Career Officer
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 11
04-07-2013, 07:09 AM
Here's an amusing thought: Introduce range benefits along with the arc differences. Turning a ship is so minimal effort it sort of makes the damage based on the fire ring arcs a moot mechanic.

Dual weapon systems remain the same
Single weapon systems +5km range
Turrets +10km range.
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# 12
04-07-2013, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by guilli88 View Post
Tired of getting stuck in STF's with turret oddeseys.


Hello.

Anyone else agree the difference in damage between dual cannon/beam, beams and turrets is just too great?

It's hampering the quality of the game. Either the dps needs to be closer together (but still based on arcs, or remove turrets from the game entirely. Beams aren't exactly great either.

Why not add ship based bonuses either?
+25% damage to dual beams/cannons on escorts
+25% damage to beam arrays and single cannons on cruisers and science ships.
Turrets can then do more damage since they're unaffected by the ship bonusses.

Either way, something needs to change.


Seeing cruisers with turret setups do 100-200 damage per hit is HORRIBLE
Nope. Nothing wrong. You just need to learn how to build a ship. Stop crying.
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# 13
04-07-2013, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by seansamurai1 View Post
That or they build a skittle blaster (coined after reading an amusing comment about a bag of skittles exploding).
Yesterday seemed to be the day of rainbow warriors. ISE was utterly atrocious, it looked like the skittle factory had exploded.

The point of turrets is they are weak unless buffed, they have a 360 degree arc, you nerf them to be nearly as powerful as a single cannon with a 180 degree firing arc, only the turret has a faster rate of fire, what do you think will suddenly get fitted to escorts!

I have seen an Atrox being very effective with 6 turrets fitted, in fact I have seen many turret ships being effective.

I'm an in awe though, people fit one of the weakest weapons available and expect it to perform like a DHC!
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Originally Posted by sjokruhlica View Post
Nope. Nothing wrong. You just need to learn how to build a ship. Stop crying.

How is my ability to "learn to build a ship" going to change how other people build ships? If you're not going to bother reading and constructively commenting, don't comment at all. The tone of your comment really makes me question your emotional maturity. Unless you plan to add to the discussion, don't come near my thread.
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# 14
04-07-2013, 09:11 AM
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Last edited by bluegeek; 04-09-2013 at 12:37 PM.
Captain
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# 15
04-07-2013, 09:12 AM
The irony of quoting my post then complaining of my maturity is amazing!

Where did I say 'your build'?
So read my posts correctly.
You say its not a nerf you want but it is a nerf, changing a damage output of a weapon to be closer to that of a narrower firing arc is a nerf, a nerf to 'help' the ones incapable of building skills and ships correctly!

You question my maturity yet resort to personal insults. I bet with my background and experience outside of the game, I can beat you at that too.
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# 16
04-07-2013, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by seansamurai1 View Post
The irony of quoting my post then complaining of my maturity is amazing!

Where did I say 'your build'?
So read my posts correctly.
You say its not a nerf you want but it is a nerf, changing a damage output of a weapon to be closer to that of a narrower firing arc is a nerf, a nerf to 'help' the ones incapable of building skills and ships correctly!

You question my maturity yet resort to personal insults. I bet with my background and experience outside of the game, I can beat you at that too.
Truth. There are too many people lately crying that this or that needs to be nerfed so that their inability to play this game won't be highlighted. It's getting old. People like this won't be happy until they have an indestructible ship that kills everything within 10 km by it's mere presence.

Last edited by sjokruhlica; 04-07-2013 at 09:21 AM.
Captain
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 5,394
# 17
04-07-2013, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by eurialo View Post
moreover first of all you need to know ...
Yeah, I'm going to be one of those grammar people. Sorry. But that phrase right there makes your sentence very difficult to understand.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bugspatteredjack View Post
I think the biggest problem with any build is the tac console slots, either people fill it up with gimmick consoles or perhaps at times there aren't enough of said consoles. I find just filling this up with the appropriate energy enhancing consoles (i.e. AP Mag Regulators Blue Quality or better) does wonders!
I don't see that as a problem at all. Tactical consoles are the simplest consoles in the game. I don't think people are using them improperly. It's everything else that's getting complicated and getting the way for players. I can't even tell you how many times I've seen someone post their build on these forums and they are equipping an EPS Flow Regulator in their engineering slot, confident that it helps with their weapons power drain.
Captain
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# 18
04-07-2013, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by sjokruhlica View Post
Truth. There are too many people lately crying that this or that needs to be nerfed so that their inability to play this game won't be highlighted. It's getting old. People like this won't be happy until they have an indestructible ship that kills everything within 10 km by it's mere presence.
Nail, head right there.
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# 19
04-07-2013, 10:07 AM
I too am tired of getting stuck in STF's with turret odysseys. But I think a better solution would be to simply let me shoot them and put them out of my misery. Hopefully being shot down by their own teammates a few times will make them rethink their design.
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# 20
04-07-2013, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by sjokruhlica View Post
Truth. There are too many people lately crying that this or that needs to be nerfed so that their inability to play this game won't be highlighted. It's getting old. People like this won't be happy until they have an indestructible ship that kills everything within 10 km by it's mere presence.
Totally agreed. They also seem to be the ones in PVP that go up against a fully kitted out ship that has the best equipment in game, and they are butthurt they loose with mark x blue gear.
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
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