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# 21
04-07-2013, 12:06 PM
Turrets are meant to be the weakest of the weapons. If anything needs to be done then make them classify as both a beam weapon or a cannon weapon so they are not cut off from half the Tac buff abilities.

Other than that the fault of those who use turretboats in a STF is on the player not the turret.
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# 22
04-07-2013, 02:00 PM
Think I hugged my weapons officer today. Killed someone with my rear turrets in PvP today and as a pug team won against a premade!
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# 23
04-07-2013, 06:45 PM
Personally, I would like to see a beam turret and a dual heavy beam ship weapon. Cannons are good and all, but I'd like to have more flexibility in making 'canon' escorts. I am pretty sure that aside from the defiant, there wasn't much in the way of phaser cannons in stafleet, but if you want to fly escorts, cannons seem like the better choice all-around.

I don't care if the hypothetical beam turrets ahve exactly the same stats as the cannon turrets, I just think adding them in would make dual beams better, and would offer greater flexibility with beams than just broadsiding.
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# 24
04-07-2013, 07:28 PM
Turrets are great if you're simply trying to proc as much as possible in fact I once use 7 turrets on my Jem'Hadar dreadnought with the Jem'Hadar set on with CR3 for major buff stripping and subsystem drain.
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# 25
04-07-2013, 08:01 PM
Wanting Cryptic to compensate for some players' incompetence is not the right way.

Either they learn by themselves, or you teach them, or you avoid them. But there's no cure for stupid.

Besides I think that 'properly' fit, with rapid fire 3, pattern Beta and the right tac consoles, even a turret cruiser should do fine in STFs.
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# 26
04-07-2013, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by arcjet View Post
The problem is usually located in front of the screen.
Bingo. We have a winner.
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# 27
04-07-2013, 08:24 PM
Turret cruisers (assuming they use 1-2 slots for something else) still put out good enough damage. Just like rainbow boats and any number of other seemingly odd builds.

A bad build is bad yes, but those traits (rainbow/turret/whatever) are not why they are bad.

Really though just learn to carry. I promise you their is someone out there that things your build is bad because you are only doing 8k DPS to his or her 14k DPS.
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# 28
04-07-2013, 10:56 PM
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Bingo. We have a winner.
I'm not so sure. The real problem here has nothing to do with Turrets. As I learned to my horror when building my Vo'Quv, the game breaking problem is FaW being terrible.

Maybe if beamships were viable players wouldn't be turning to turrets just to get access to the Boff cannon skills.
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# 29
04-08-2013, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by pwedisplayname View Post
I'm not so sure. The real problem here has nothing to do with Turrets. As I learned to my horror when building my Vo'Quv, the game breaking problem is FaW being terrible.

Maybe if beamships were viable players wouldn't be turning to turrets just to get access to the Boff cannon skills.
I run a galor beam boat on my fed eng toon with no problems at all. It's very effective. I can keep my weapon power levels up above 100 90% of the time, even with FAW2 without sacrificing shields or maneuverability. It's all in the build and spec.
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# 30
04-09-2013, 04:31 AM
Can someone Clarify 'Rainbow Cannonboats' or 'Skittles Cannonboats'? is it Eejits Mixing Phaser with Polaron with Tetryon with Disruptor?
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I use a Defiant Retrofit i got from the C-store as a gift, i got Phaser DHCS and Turrets, waiting to actually get enough Dilithium for Antiproton full, the only part i am stuck on is 'Consoles'. I admit it, i am one of the worst Console Outfitters, i am neither good at this game, i'm getting better with the help of a guy, but what about consoles?
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