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# 31
04-10-2013, 09:14 AM
so is the rule 62 console with the 11% torp/mine boost worth getting for a torp boat?
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# 32
04-10-2013, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by born2bwild1 View Post
so is the rule 62 console with the 11% torp/mine boost worth getting for a torp boat?
Of course it is.
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# 33
04-10-2013, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by doffingcomrade View Post
That B'rel was clearly using the haxed Subterfuge boffs, though. Notice how it didn't decloak while firing. And despite godlike invisibility hax, he still got pwned in the end. Noob.
Well, yes. He was also only using one torpedo launcher. Seriously...what B'rel torpedo boat uses only one torpedo launcher?

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Originally Posted by born2bwild1 View Post
so is the rule 62 console with the 11% torp/mine boost worth getting for a torp boat?
It's almost an extra tactical console. Or, half of one at the least.

It was the first Lobi store item I purchased, and the only one on my KDF.
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# 34
04-10-2013, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
Of course it is.
ok added console - main trans packs a 5300 base punch and breen does 3400 per mine

not quantum level but good with shields up.

plus I fly fully spec'd sci - so I am more of a harrassing player in pvp

hitting the escorts with chrono spreads - trans spreads - breens on their hull

subnuke - VM3 - sensor scan - warp plasma - jams sensors 2

kill if target is weak - declaw them if they are alpha striking a team mate

makes for some very pissed off Tacscorts

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# 35
04-10-2013, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by darkfader1988 View Post
No not really, I couldnt remember the last time i got killed solely by a transphasic spammer. Sure on my BoP i got pwned a few times by a cluster, not entirely unexpected if you run with 0% resist to kinetic (And yeah when all the mines blow up with chained crits, total death). My choice so the implications are all my responsibility running this way. But for a Bug or any other decent ship.... I dont think so.


I find it cheap in the sense that its just trying to circumvent people's shield, but its not that effective at all versus a decent player. Team vs team wise its even worse. Its what i call a tranny tickling build. :p

If you know me well enough you would also know I would never call something cheap in the sense that that something keeps beating me and I would not be able to find a counter for it, I die trying before I would go on the complaining tour. The only factor in this game I even publicly and openly called cheap in the sense that its not beatable or counterable, is (Siphon) drain spam by one or multiple sources taking all your systems to 0. If you dont agree with me on that being cheap (in the sense of hard or unable to counter), i dont know what is. Just an example.



Yes I've experimented with Transphasics myself for weeks (After the buff), it was fun, effective as well, until i realised the only real critical spike i could do was against people running zero resist to kinetic and no hull heals. As soon as real teamplay came into the picture against equal teams the effect was drastically reduces and even when achieving 3M dmg on the board often, the matches were also prolonged by an hour.

The only decent use i could find for trannies as a tac is against a total siphon drain team etc where there is simply no weapon power available for 90% of the match lol

What Ive also seen is bugged Brel's with subterfuge running it, they killed pugs in kerrat or even arenas without ever decloak or be seen even. Yap I used the bugged subterfuge as well until i realized myself how bugged they were. But I never abused the enhanced to a factor like this, and especially not with Plasma/Trans. It might just be the total picture that made me feel it was cheesy or whatever you want to call it.

I can play the guessing game as well though, and im guessing you are using it. And thats fine, nobody has anything against that. But everyone can have their own opinion, nothing wrong there.


Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word 'cheap', but perhaps ineffective/inefficient would be more appropriate.

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if all forum psost were as sound and logical as this response the world would be a better place. oh by the way when I used transphasic I found a success chance for the last minute RSP user. if ur second hy is tpasic u will get more hull dmg on people with rapid shield self-or ally heals/rsp
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# 36
04-10-2013, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by emoejoe View Post
if all forum psost were as sound and logical as this response the world would be a better place. oh by the way when I used transphasic I found a success chance for the last minute RSP user. if ur second hy is tpasic u will get more hull dmg on people with rapid shield self-or ally heals/rsp
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# 37
04-10-2013, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
Of course it is.
Depends what you're giving up for it. 11% is a bit more than a third of Mk 12 purple tactical console, not very significant.
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# 38
04-10-2013, 02:56 PM
is this about bops or the cluster ? xP

anyway, id like to know what kind of nerf did the cluster had, i used them today and didnt find any difference, i read the release and patch notes and didnt see anything about it, i cant do a big search atm sorry

i heard the omega torpedo isnt affected by torpedo doffs anymore, is it true ? they are the 2 torpedos i most use in pvp ...
it's not the ship or the build, it's the atitude

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# 39
04-10-2013, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by emoejoe View Post
oh by the way when I used transphasic I found a success chance for the last minute RSP user. if ur second hy is tpasic u will get more hull dmg on people with rapid shield self-or ally heals/rsp
Any torpedo boat can take advantage of someone who uses RSP. My variety of torpedoes eat up RSP users for lunch. Considering people tend to use it when their hull and shields are low, a barrage of torpedoes have a good chance of killing your target before they are back to full shields.

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Originally Posted by hurleybird View Post
Depends what you're giving up for it. 11% is a bit more than a third of Mk 12 purple tactical console, not very significant.
It's still 11% more than the guy without it. I run Warhead consoles, so the max I get is 20% per console. That's over 50% for the Rule 62.
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# 40
04-10-2013, 04:11 PM
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I run Warhead consoles
Well, that's your fault. Stop doing that!
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