Lt. Commander
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# 1 BSDs
01-14-2010, 03:36 AM
Has anybody else been having BSD issues.

Mine are slightly odd, in that it's rarely the same one twice, and never while playing, usually while shutting the machine down after playing, but the consistent factor is that they turn up after playing STO.

I never had any BSDs (XP, Nvidia 260, up to date drivers as of last week), then I installed Warhammer, got intermittent BSDs, uninstalled it and they went away, been stable for several months.

Since I installed STO, it's about 50/50 if I get a BSD as I try to shut the machine down after playing.
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# 2
01-14-2010, 03:39 AM
your SODing because of the video card is over heating. if you can adjust the speed of it via software slow it down, otherwise dusting your case with a canned air(inside) and adding fans may help.
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# 3
01-14-2010, 05:44 AM
i had a few BSOD's seems ST: O didnt like my overclocks as i dropped then and voilla stable game. yet those ocs work fine when playing other much more system demanding games
Lt. Commander
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# 4
01-14-2010, 05:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMinotaur
Has anybody else been having BSD issues.

Mine are slightly odd, in that it's rarely the same one twice, and never while playing, usually while shutting the machine down after playing, but the consistent factor is that they turn up after playing STO.

I never had any BSDs (XP, Nvidia 260, up to date drivers as of last week), then I installed Warhammer, got intermittent BSDs, uninstalled it and they went away, been stable for several months.

Since I installed STO, it's about 50/50 if I get a BSD as I try to shut the machine down after playing.
Do you also know the error message from the BSOD? If so can you mention it here. That way we can have a closer look at your issue.

BSOD's are always Windows related so it could be very well your hardware/drivers that could be the issue.
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# 5
01-14-2010, 11:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowner View Post
Do you also know the error message from the BSOD? If so can you mention it here. That way we can have a closer look at your issue.

BSOD's are always Windows related so it could be very well your hardware/drivers that could be the issue.
I've had 6 or 7 different ones, never two the same.

As to the person that said it's the video card overheating, please actually read the post, it BSDs as I log off when the video card is basically idle.
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# 6
01-20-2010, 03:48 PM
Latest one I got (which I've had before) and the first one I've had in game rather than after playing:

DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

0x00...D1(0x00...3D, 0x00...2, 0x00...0, 0xB7E2B6D4)

Chopped DXDIAG follows

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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/20/2010, 23:38:58
Machine name: YOUR-94761DD7AC
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090804-1435)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 3326MB RAM
Page File: 301MB used, 4909MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GTX 260
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05E2&SUBSYS_82911043&REV_A1
Display Memory: 896.0 MB
Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0011.9562 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 11/21/2009 02:34:54, 6282752 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 11/21/2009 02:34:54, 10235968 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-46A2-11CF-A956-9AA200C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x05E2
SubSys ID: 0x82911043
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

-------------
Sound Devices
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Description: SB Audigy 4 [9F00]
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0008&SUBSYS_10211102&REV_00
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.1161 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 6/18/2005 05:53:28, 438784 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Creative
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 4000, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 64, 62
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 64, 62
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: Yes
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

System Devices
--------------
Name: VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3044&SUBSYS_81FE1043&REV_C0\4&DC2 68A3&0&4080
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ohci1394.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 18:46:18, 61696 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\1394bus.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 18:46:18, 53376 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nic1394.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 18:51:25, 61824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\arp1394.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 18:51:25, 60800 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\enum1394.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 13:46:40, 6400 bytes

Name: Creative SB Audigy 4 (WDM)
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0008&SUBSYS_10211102&REV_00\4&DC2 68A3&0&3880
Driver: n/a

Name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05E2&SUBSYS_82911043&REV_A1\6&20F 9C1F5&0&00000018
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nv4_mini.sys, 6.14.0011.9562 (English), 11/21/2009 02:34:54, 10235968 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\OpenCL.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (English), 11/21/2009 02:34:54, 69632 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nv4_disp.dll, 6.14.0011.9562 (English), 11/21/2009 02:34:54, 6282752 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvapi.dll, 6.14.0011.9562 (English), 11/21/2009 02:34:54, 1056768 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcompiler.dll, 6.14.0011.9562 (English), 11/21/2009 02:34:54, 11374592 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcuda.dll, 6.14.0011.9562 (English), 11/21/2009 02:34:54, 4038656 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcuvenc.dll, 6.14.0011.9562 (English), 11/21/2009 02:34:54, 1989224 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcuvid.dll, 6.14.0011.9562 (English), 11/21/2009 02:34:54, 2259560 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvdata.bin, 11/21/2009 02:34:54, 2293286 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvinfo.pb, 11/21/2009 02:34:54, 8743 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvoglnt.dll, 6.14.0011.9562 (English), 11/21/2009 02:34:54, 13602816 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Uninstall\nvdisp.nvu, 11/21/2009 02:34:54, 25699 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Uninstall\nvudisp.exe, 1.10.0052.0030 (English), 11/21/2009 02:34:54, 592488 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcod.dll, 1.07.0008.0073 (English), 11/21/2009 02:34:54, 182888 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcodins.dll, 1.07.0008.0073 (English), 11/21/2009 02:34:54, 182888 bytes
Lt. Commander
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# 7
01-20-2010, 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMinotaur
Latest one I got (which I've had before) and the first one I've had in game rather than after playing:

DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

0x00...D1(0x00...3D, 0x00...2, 0x00...0, 0xB7E2B6D4)
This usually isn't too bad of an error, AFAIK. There's nothing wrong with your hardware; instead what's happening is that a piece of software is attempting to use an IRQ above it, which is impossible, and therefore causes Windows to crash. As the error suggests, it's likely just a device driver, such as your video or sound driver (though if it only happens while playing games, the video driver is a good culprit).

I'd say just try re-installing/updating your video drivers and see if that helps.
Lt. Commander
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# 8
01-21-2010, 03:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Catamount View Post
This usually isn't too bad of an error, AFAIK. There's nothing wrong with your hardware; instead what's happening is that a piece of software is attempting to use an IRQ above it, which is impossible, and therefore causes Windows to crash. As the error suggests, it's likely just a device driver, such as your video or sound driver (though if it only happens while playing games, the video driver is a good culprit).

I'd say just try re-installing/updating your video drivers and see if that helps.
Video driver was updated very recently as the game forced me to do it first time I tried to play, will do the soundcard first, thx for your help.

Curiously, this was the main error I got in and after playing WAR, and never got it again after uninstalling the game until I installed STO a long while later. CoH causes me no issues like this.
Lt. Commander
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# 9
01-21-2010, 05:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMinotaur
Video driver was updated very recently as the game forced me to do it first time I tried to play, will do the soundcard first, thx for your help.

Curiously, this was the main error I got in and after playing WAR, and never got it again after uninstalling the game until I installed STO a long while later. CoH causes me no issues like this.
If I had to guess, I'd say that some driver is being utilized by certain games in such a way that this error is caused (like EAX in the sound driver, for instance). It's really tough to say though. When the BSOD pops up, what file does it say causes the problem? If you can't see, you can either disable the "restart on system failure" option on the computer so you can read the error better, or you can just find the "minidump" folder in the Windows folder, find the latest BSOD (the file with the latest creation date), and then one of us can look at that file.
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# 10
01-21-2010, 11:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Catamount View Post
If I had to guess, I'd say that some driver is being utilized by certain games in such a way that this error is caused (like EAX in the sound driver, for instance). It's really tough to say though. When the BSOD pops up, what file does it say causes the problem? If you can't see, you can either disable the "restart on system failure" option on the computer so you can read the error better, or you can just find the "minidump" folder in the Windows folder, find the latest BSOD (the file with the latest creation date), and then one of us can look at that file.
I have the file, but it's not in any format I recognise, what do you open it with as it doesn't appear you can attach a file on the forums.

Updated the sound card driver today, will see if it makes any difference.
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