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# 61
04-27-2013, 06:54 PM
All I see here is knee-jerk reactions from KDF babies whining about Feds getting a (laughably minor and insignificant) buff to one of our most useless fighters (from amongst our already ridiculously small choice pool) that will make absolutely zero difference in the grand scheme of things.

Honestly, KDF whines about having less content, but they have the best ships and toys in the game. Give it a rest.
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# 62
04-27-2013, 07:21 PM
I think there needs to be some perspective here.

The context is an extension of Caitain based technology (Thoron stealth) on the fighters of the Caitain specific ship.

Caitain not Federation.

Perhaps there will be a battle cloak CAITAIN escort/cruiser/sci ship in the future.

Do I necessary want to play it??? Every time a new Fed ship comes out its the end of the klingon faction and pvp game balance. Heard the same thing about the Vesta shield powers, and the Andorian 5 hardpoints up front (storm in a teacup BS).

Surely if this was an issue then why isn't the cloaking of the Tier 5 Romulan reward not an issue.

Cloak and still fire even if only a few seconds... If you want to focus on a thin end of the wedge there it is. Essentially with the Romulan Rep any ship can have cloaking. how long before a cooldown on cloak doff gets introduced or one that upscales the length.

If the Devs really wish to undermine the cloak enjoyed by the Klingons, they've already got something now in game they could play with to do so.
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# 63
04-27-2013, 07:25 PM
The Federation simply shouldn't have a cloak on any of its ships, even if those are ships of minor species that joined the Federation. It doesn't fit the image of the Federation and they still have a treaty with the Romulans restricting them from pursuing cloaking technology.
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# 64
04-27-2013, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by lord7tareq View Post
The Federation simply shouldn't have a cloak on any of its ships, even if those are ships of minor species that joined the Federation. It doesn't fit the image of the Federation and they still have a treaty with the Romulans restricting them from pursuing cloaking technology.
You're right. Federation aren't cowardly opportunists like the Klingons.

However, the Defiant was built with a cloaking device with the agreement and even cooperation of the Romulans. Who's to say it was the first and only time? Besides, as someone else has already mentioned, the Caitian Stalker STEALTH Fighters are just that: Caitian, not Starfleet. Cait may be a member of the Federation, but they maintain their own ships and technology.
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# 65
04-27-2013, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lord7tareq View Post
The Federation simply shouldn't have a cloak on any of its ships, even if those are ships of minor species that joined the Federation. It doesn't fit the image of the Federation and they still have a treaty with the Romulans restricting them from pursuing cloaking technology.

Well the treaty obviously got amended as Dreadnoughts have cloak too...
Anyone seen a copy of this treaty recently? nor do I remember it referenced in path to game time that this was allowed. rather it was in the TV series were going to put it in game.

Also if Federation view of former Romulan Republic is no longer recognized as official Romulan government then Federation could recognize D'Tan and his New Republic and have a new treaty in which a grateful d'Tan permits this, hey presto cloaking feds...

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# 66
04-27-2013, 08:14 PM
Its battle cloak on a pet...... What is the big deal? Its a minor thing.
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# 67
04-27-2013, 08:18 PM
A pathetically weak pet that almost nobody uses for a ship that almost nobody uses. Just another example of KDF babies whining about Feds getting ANYTHING.
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# 68
04-27-2013, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by admiralandy View Post
Well the treaty obviously got amended as Dreadnoughts have cloak too...
Anyone seen a copy of this treaty recently? nor do I remember it referenced in path to game time that this was allowed. rather it was in the TV series were going to put it in game.

Also if Federation view of former Romulan Republic is no longer recognized as official Romulan government then Federation could recognize D'Tan and his New Republic and have a new treaty in which a grateful d'Tan permits this, hey presto cloaking feds...
The trwaty that effects how the feds have cloaking in STO can be found in the Path to 2409 backstory written by Cryptic for the game and covered in the novel Needs of the Many that was written about STO.
The Dreanought and Defiant-R are basically grandfathered in relation to the PT2409 treaty.
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# 69
04-27-2013, 08:26 PM
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A pathetically weak pet that almost nobody uses for a ship that almost nobody uses. Just another example of KDF babies whining about Feds getting ANYTHING.
Your funny. This the third time youve insulted the KDF on this page and stated we are whinning about the cloak fed pet when infact with the exception of the opening poster pratically EVERY KDF poster in this thread has had the same reaction to the "cloaking fed pet" news that amounts to a huge "who gives a ****te" so I feel compelled to ask is your reading comprehension that imbecillic or are you just poorly trolling becuase of a lack of a more intelligent action?
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# 70
04-27-2013, 08:29 PM
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Your funny. This the third time youve insulted the KDF on this page and stated we are whinning about the cloak fed pet when infact with the exception of the opening poster pratically EVERY KDF poster in this thread has had the same reaction to the "cloaking fed pet" news that amounts to a huge "who gives a ****te" so I feel compelled to ask is your reading comprehension that imbecillic or are you just poorly trolling becuase of a lack of a more intelligent action?
My funny what?

I'm bored, and baiting KDF (specifically you) is easy entertainment. And if we're in agreement about the meaningless battle cloak on a worthless fighter pet...what does it matter? Methinks the lady doth protest too much...
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