Survivor of Remus
Join Date: Mar 2013
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One gets 2 hangars of blue lvl fighters and you can have a total of 12, yes, 12 out fighting for you. You could upgrade to the purples but according to the description, each bay launches 1 fighter and you can have 2 flights each for a total of 4. Does anyone know if the HUGE decrease in fighters is worth it?.....It seems 4 purple fighters must do HELLA damage to beat 12 that can do medium damage....any thoughts?
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 2
04-15-2013, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by foxk1234 View Post
One gets 2 hangars of blue lvl fighters and you can have a total of 12, yes, 12 out fighting for you. You could upgrade to the purples but according to the description, each bay launches 1 fighter and you can have 2 flights each for a total of 4. Does anyone know if the HUGE decrease in fighters is worth it?.....It seems 4 purple fighters must do HELLA damage to beat 12 that can do medium damage....any thoughts?
Aren't the blue ones Widow fighters? That would make the Mesh Weavers frigate pets wouldn't it? The numbers are pretty standard for frigates.
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Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 3
04-15-2013, 10:03 AM
Yeah, the Mesh Weavers are a completely different item than Widows. The purple Widows are apparently going to be coming in with the Tholian reputation system we'll be getting on the 21st, but they're getting changed to be usable by any ship with a hangar bay and not just a Recluse.
Survivor of Remus
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 12
# 4
04-15-2013, 10:23 AM
hmm...interesting. There are already purple ones available as we speak I didn't notice they were mesh weavers though
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 5
04-15-2013, 10:28 AM
You can have 12 fighters. They are called Tholian Widows. They have around 4K hitpoints, meaning they tend to die the instant anything looks at them. They have a beam array, and a quantum torpedo. Their beam array is very weak, quantum torpedoes are slow, and in general this pet is outperformed by basic Peregrines/To'Duj fighters.


You can have 4 frigates. They are called Tholian Mesh Weavers. They have around 30K hitpoints, which means they can take a few hits. They have 2 dual beams, a beam array, and a thermionic torpedo launcher. Their beam weapons have much higher power than the Widows, and their torpedo launcher is also much higher in damage as well as having a chance to drain the target's weapon and engine power. They know the abilities Attack Pattern Beta (increases their own damage, and yours, and everybody else), Fire At Will (they can potentially hit up to 6 targets per shot), and Evasive Maneuvers (they like to go fast.)


In vague terms, a single Mesh Weaver is about as strong as 6 Widow fighters.

They are very good pets.
Survivor of Remus
Join Date: Mar 2013
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# 6
04-15-2013, 10:43 AM
thanks....that's VERY helpful
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# 7
04-15-2013, 10:47 AM
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You can have 12 fighters. They are called Tholian Widows. They have around 4K hitpoints, meaning they tend to die the instant anything looks at them. They have a beam array, and a quantum torpedo. Their beam array is very weak, quantum torpedoes are slow, and in general this pet is outperformed by basic Peregrines/To'Duj fighters.


You can have 4 frigates. They are called Tholian Mesh Weavers. They have around 30K hitpoints, which means they can take a few hits. They have 2 dual beams, a beam array, and a thermionic torpedo launcher. Their beam weapons have much higher power than the Widows, and their torpedo launcher is also much higher in damage as well as having a chance to drain the target's weapon and engine power. They know the abilities Attack Pattern Beta (increases their own damage, and yours, and everybody else), Fire At Will (they can potentially hit up to 6 targets per shot), and Evasive Maneuvers (they like to go fast.)


In vague terms, a single Mesh Weaver is about as strong as 6 Widow fighters.

They are very good pets.
I saw the Mesh Weavers in the D-Store a few weeks back and mistook them has updated widows and did not give them a 2nd look.

Now that I see what Mesh Weavers have to offer I might just have to dust off my Recluse
Captain
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 941
# 8
04-15-2013, 11:06 AM
I had been running one widow one mesh weaver. Then I started paying attention. Now, it's two mesh weavers. I can't imagine what they'd have to do to buff the widows enough that I'd ever slot them again.
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# 9
04-15-2013, 11:26 AM
As an engineer in a tholian with two tac console slots and 6 weapons I always seem to do alot better than that same character in a jem dread with 4 console slots and 7 weapons.
In ce or any leader board I always get 1st Place in my recluse but can't even get on the board with my dread.
I have been wracking my brain trying to figure out why.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 10
04-15-2013, 04:32 PM
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...In vague terms, a single Mesh Weaver is about as strong as 6 Widow fighters. They are very good pets.
Really nice review Momaw, thank you. I know the OP is asking about the Tholian Carrier, but would you say your review of fighters vs. frigates, the latter being better, carries over to the Vo'Quv and the Kar'fi? Is it always better to go Frigs over Fighters?

My Vo'Quv recently got two hangar bays of Dilithium Store "Advanced" BoPs, and it feels like they're pretty strong. I think these are only "Blue", are there any better (Purple or Elite) BoPs for the Vo'Quv?

My other toon in a Kar'fi is running one each hanger bay of fighters (can't remember which) and the Fek'ihri frigates (whatever they're called)... Just basic Uncommon-level ones. I'm thinking of going all frigates, but still trying to decide. This toon isn't far from Romulan Rep T5 and Elite Scorpions, and I like the idea of using those (I've a Fed that uses/loves them in her Vesta).

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As an engineer in a tholian with two tac console slots and 6 weapons I always seem to do alot better than that same character in a jem dread with 4 console slots and 7 weapons. In ce or any leader board I always get 1st Place in my recluse but can't even get on the board with my dread. I have been wracking my brain trying to figure out why.
I really like my carrier ships, and I keep trying to decide if I want to invest in a Tholian ship. Do you have your build posted somewhere, or could you post it here, please?

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