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# 81
04-25-2013, 10:14 PM
I dont understand why nobody has not suggested the leave only Option.

Make it so a fleet leader can not get demoted or kicked.

A fleet leader must leave of his own free will, via the leave button.

This easy change would prevent a hostile take over.

The fleet I'm in has 500 active members and only one Fleet Leader.

We did this to protect our fleet and efforts from such problems.

Also the fleet leader turned off kicks for everyone but himself, bank change permission, and fleet rename.

Any fleet that thinks it needs more than one leader is mistaken.

Any fleet that forms up under a leader who is not active everyday is mistaken.

Our fleet leader says his role is to keep the fleet safe and our rank 6 officers job is to run the fleet.

We had troubles with ranks 6 officers slotting junk projects, selling ships and etc.

They got the boot and we never worried because we had our Guardian rank 7 protecting our holdings.

I do have say these stories make my heart drop, but I have to shake my head when simple precautions are flat out ignored.
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# 82
04-26-2013, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by blakes7tvseries View Post
I dont understand why nobody has not suggested the leave only Option.

Make it so a fleet leader can not get demoted or kicked.

A fleet leader must leave of his own free will, via the leave button.

This easy change would prevent a hostile take over..
Bad idea, allowing a single person to have absolute control over the time/effort/resources of 500 people is tempting fate, if that fleet leader goes rogue or has their account hacked you can kiss those resources goodbye.

There needs to be a voting system where a fleet leader is kicked if 70% (or around about) wants them kicked.
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# 83
04-26-2013, 06:10 AM
accounts only get hacked a few ways

1.poor security

2.shares account info with some one

3.porn sites

4.buys EC from a site and maybe fleets I mean ppl now sell them in zone chat for EC and farmers not tap in to that be illogical

and there is account guard and if they can hack your email to bypass account guard again poor security

and ask for if some one leaves well there is the 30 day rule

and I don't believe ppl are getting there accounts hack I believe the leader is on a power trip got his or her base to tire what ever then said I don't need them any more and really they do have all right to do so its there fleet ya it may hurt to lose all that hard work but this is a game move on

but I will say this the hole starbase thing was and still is a bad ide

there is 1 solution for hacking and even its not 100% because of some of the above (authenticator's)
swimwear off risa not fixed
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It's not their fault you feel trolled by the new ability to be immune to your disco ball, sorry'boutit.

Last edited by daan2006; 04-26-2013 at 06:57 AM.
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# 84
04-26-2013, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by daan2006 View Post
accounts only get hacked a few ways



and I don't believe ppl are getting there accounts hack I believe the leader is on a power trip got his or her base to tire what ever then said I don't need them any more and really they do have all right to do so its there fleet ya it may hurt to lose all that hard work but this is a game move on
So if I am understanding you correctly, you believe its OK for a fleet leader to built a star base to their desired Tier, and then kick everybody 'because they don't need them any more' and because 'it is their right' ??

Well thank god you are not our fleet leader, you attitude highlights the very important need for a protection system to be implemented in order to kick fleet leaders who abuse their position.
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# 85
04-26-2013, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by equinox976 View Post
So if I am understanding you correctly, you believe its OK for a fleet leader to built a star base to their desired Tier, and then kick everybody 'because they don't need them any more' and because 'it is their right' ??

Well thank god you are not our fleet leader, you attitude highlights the very important need for a protection system to be implemented in order to kick fleet leaders who abuse their position.
where did I say I would do that? this is a game and some of you act as if some one took your real life home

maybe cryptic should call ADT?

to be frank I could do with out the hole starbase crap
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It's not their fault you feel trolled by the new ability to be immune to your disco ball, sorry'boutit.
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# 86
04-26-2013, 06:20 AM
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and I don't believe ppl are getting there accounts hack I believe the leader is on a power trip got his or her base to tire what ever then said I don't need them any more and really they do have all right to do so its there fleet ya it may hurt to lose all that hard work but this is a game move on

but I will say this the hole starbase thing was and still is a bad ide
That's where you said it. If its not what you said perhaps you could write a little more clearly as it is very difficult to understand what you are saying.

For instance its 'whole' not 'hole' that's a pretty basic thing.
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# 87
04-26-2013, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by equinox976 View Post
That's where you said it. If its not what you said perhaps you could write a little more clearly as it is very difficult to understand what you are saying.

For instance its 'whole' not 'hole' that's a pretty basic thing.
you need to look at key word (there) btw I don't care for spelling poe poes

keep this in mind multi language game oh and this not every one can spell like the nex one you may want to look up as to why
swimwear off risa not fixed
system Lord Baal is dead
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Originally Posted by valoreah View Post
It's not their fault you feel trolled by the new ability to be immune to your disco ball, sorry'boutit.

Last edited by daan2006; 04-26-2013 at 06:36 AM.
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# 88
04-26-2013, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by daan2006 View Post
you need to look at key word (there) btw I don't care for spelling poe poes

keep this in mind spelling poe poe multi language game oh and this not every one can spelling like the nex one you may want to look up as to why
Well that's your prerogative. Personally I refuse to interact any further with somebody who refuses to make any effort in making themselves understood.

Good day to you sir.
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# 89
04-26-2013, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by equinox976 View Post
Well that's your prerogative. Personally I refuse to interact any further with somebody who refuses to make any effort in making themselves understood.

Good day to you sir.
oh I think you understand well you just don't like what I have to say on the matter but yes good day to you Sir
swimwear off risa not fixed
system Lord Baal is dead
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Originally Posted by valoreah View Post
It's not their fault you feel trolled by the new ability to be immune to your disco ball, sorry'boutit.

Last edited by daan2006; 04-26-2013 at 06:34 AM.
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# 90
04-26-2013, 08:43 AM
I understand, losing all that work can be heartbreaking but you have to take into account the fact that you are putting this on one account... Why is it that you had one all powerful account in a position like this? There are ways to limit this type of damage altogether but it seems more and more that large fleets are allowing 1 or 2 accounts superior authority in the fleet and thats whats leaving them open to this type of attack.

Especially when you consider that this this account was so easily hacked in the first place... Cryptic provides account security tools to all of their players, including account guard which in the end is a pretty secure system.

Instead of looking to others to help you or Cryptic to put a penalty driven system in place as a measure to try and curb this sort of abuse, why dont you ask the hacked player why their account was vulnerable like this? Did they have a crappy password in place? Did they turn off account guard (universally stupid, btw)?

Yes, this hacker is a douchenozzle for this type of activity, but there had to be an opening there to exploit in the first place, and a reason for the attack.
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