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# 71
04-19-2013, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by commandersalvek View Post
Lol I have noticed whatever these epohhs are -they hit you hard

The D'Deridex it not old -They have that Rom ship from the 2150s in the game thats OLD
I actually have NO problem with that whatsoever in the context of the storyline.

Disregarding the fact that this could be another Starfleet-esq 'modern ship that simply uses an older, established, design (a'la NX class), UNLIKE that scenario, there is justification for the Romulan refugees using old ships.

I mean, they're refugees who lost their homeworld and all the resources it afforded - it actually makes a lot of sense that they'd be using pretty much any spaceworthy ships they could get their hands on, regardless of age.

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# 72
04-19-2013, 07:50 AM
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How can it be a "bruiser cruiser" if you don't give it cannons, when cannons have both higher DPS and better energy efficiency.
The D'Deridex can totally use DHCs!

With a turn rate of 5.

It'll be fun. Trust me.
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# 73
04-19-2013, 07:53 AM
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The D'Deridex can totally use DHCs!

With a turn rate of 5.

It'll be fun. Trust me.
Fun for the oposition!

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# 74
04-19-2013, 08:05 AM
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The D'Deridex can totally use DHCs!

With a turn rate of 5.

It'll be fun. Trust me.
In May, we totally need to do a D'Deridex and Galaxy-X only PvP fight in which both sides are only using cannons.
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# 75
04-19-2013, 08:51 AM
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How can it be a "bruiser cruiser" if you don't give it cannons, when cannons have both higher DPS and better energy efficiency.
A bruiser cruiser means it can take a beating. Not that it can give one.
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# 76
04-19-2013, 08:56 AM
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A bruiser cruiser means it can take a beating. Not that it can give one.
heh. so its a big fat target.
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# 77
04-19-2013, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by skollulfr View Post
heh. so its a big fat target.
Yep, basically. It's the Romulan version of a Galaxy that's a bit slower and with a bit more firepower.

As I recall, the Romulans began phasing out the D'Deridex in favor of the Mogai class to deal with the more powerful offensive oriented cruisers like the Sovereign and Neg'var.

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# 78
04-19-2013, 09:20 AM
The basic problem with the slow turning ships is that the Beam damage is just stupidly out of whack when compared with cannons, and has been since they decided that crew no longer generate power. Before, the Escorts had severe power problems and cruisers could compete with their 4 full power beams in every direction, now that's simply not the case. And Klingon cruisers can use cannons effectively as they are pretty maneuverable.

Anyone that thinks the 50 degrees that a cruiser can bring all 8 (more usually 6) beams to bear is the same as an escort able to bring everything to bear in a 45 degree arc has not actually played the game, and in any case the escort is always bringing double the dps into its sweet spot, and facing 3 beams and maybe a torp back from the cruisers. Its ridiculous. And since they have slowly made escorts have nearly as tough as cruisers (hi Raptors, Defiants and bug ships) whats the point anymore. Apart from style, which is good enough for me.

Of course any attempt to boost beams back to even competitive status would generate howls of rage from people that might actually die to a fed cruiser, so we are stuck with it till the eng and sci players actually clue the devs in.
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# 79
04-19-2013, 09:24 AM
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since they decided that crew no longer generate power.
wait, what? Crew did what?
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# 80
04-19-2013, 09:24 AM
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Maybe the fact he did carry hundreds of civilians did affect his available options. But what can I know ?
Exactly, what kind of idiot allows or agrees to command a ship with hundreds of civilians knowing full well that sometimes conflict will be unavoidable.
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However, I think with regard to the Romulan Republic player characters/npcs, it all comes down to a finite point:

These are not the Romulans from the shows.
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