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# 1 Crazy crit rates
04-19-2013, 04:05 PM
I'm starting the get the feeling that end game Romulan ships are going to have some crazy Crit rates because the Romulan Operative trait can be accessed by both Romulan Eng and Sci boffs. We're looking at >20% after reputation rewards.
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# 2
04-19-2013, 04:32 PM
Sounds just like what a good escort-warbird needs !
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
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# 3
04-19-2013, 04:35 PM
They actually put Operative on generic boffs?

So much for that embassy...
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# 4
04-19-2013, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by stirling191 View Post
They actually put Operative on generic boffs?

So much for that embassy...
Well, the Embassy allows FED and KDF to use them.
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# 5
04-19-2013, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mrkollins View Post
Well, the Embassy allows FED and KDF to use them.
Only in specific slots, and only after a rather absurd resource sink. A Fed or KDF player cannot make a 5x Operative ship.

Above and beyond that if my rough math is correct, you're looking at a Romulan, with 5x superior operative boffs and maxed out weapon specialization skills having a base crit rate of pushing 25-30%, and a crit severity of near 150%.

And that's before ability boosts.

Not to mention the 80-90% cloak cooldown reduction modifier.

Last edited by stirling191; 04-19-2013 at 05:54 PM.
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# 6
04-19-2013, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by stirling191 View Post
Only in specific slots, and only after a rather absurd resource sink. A Fed or KDF player cannot make a 5x Operative ship.

Above and beyond that if my math is correct, you're looking at a Romulan, with 5x superior operative boffs and maxed out weapon specialization skills having a base crit rate of pushing 25-30%, and a crit severity of near 150%.

And that's before ability boosts.

Not to mention the 80-90% cloak cooldown reduction modifier.
I can see that as a way of compensation for them being an "allied" faction.
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
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# 7
04-19-2013, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tpalelena View Post
I can see that as a way of compensation for them being an "allied" faction.
I can see it as power creep.

= Rate =
Base: 2.5
Rom. Reputation: 3
Weapon Specialization: 2
Assim. Module: 0.92
Zero Point: 1.8
Tachyo: 0.76
5x Sup. Operative: 10
Total: 20.98%

= Severity =
Base: 50
Weapon Specialization: 25
Assim. Module: 9.2
Tachyo: 7.6
5x Sup. Operative: 25
Total: 116.8%
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# 8
04-19-2013, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dilbart View Post
I can see it as power creep.

= Rate =
Base: 2.5
Rom. Reputation: 3
Weapon Specialization: 2
Assim. Module: 0.92
Zero Point: 1.8
Tachyo: 0.76
5x Sup. Operative: 10
Total: 20.98%

= Severity =
Base: 50
Weapon Specialization: 25
Assim. Module: 9.2
Tachyo: 7.6
5x Sup. Operative: 25
Total: 116.8%
Looks like I overestimated Weapon Spec's contribution a skoch (for some reason I was recalling it as 5/30 crit/severity respectively). but you didn't factor in the player Operative trait (think it's 1.5/3.5 but I'll have to look it up).

For comparison, my fully crit specced fed can only get to 16.9% / 105.7%

Extrapolate that difference through buffs, procs and weapon mods and you're looking at a serious functional disparity.

Last edited by stirling191; 04-19-2013 at 06:00 PM.
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# 9
04-19-2013, 08:58 PM
the crit trait does NOT stack, they nerfed that a month ago
the embassy boff is not useless , cause u can give your capt a other trait in its place.

Last edited by silverfaustx; 04-19-2013 at 09:04 PM.
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# 10
04-19-2013, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by silverfaustx View Post
the crit trait does NOT stack, they nerfed that a month ago
the embassy boff is not useless , cause u can give your capt a other trait in its place.
Actually the crit chances ones stack, and the cloak cooldown stacks, and the defense bonus stacks. The only thing that doesn't stack is the Stealth bonus.

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