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# 21
04-20-2013, 04:26 AM
im a true romulan I will never in my life time side with KDF dog's
swimwear off risa not fixed
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# 22
04-20-2013, 04:34 AM
For purely aesthetic reasons my Romulan will join the KDF. The uniforms look more romulan and after joining they also get the angry KDF faces.

before and after siding with kdf, some sliders.
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...romneutral.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...eem/romkdf.jpg

Would be nice to have the choice for what face style to use though

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# 23
04-20-2013, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by butstonfreem View Post
For purely aesthetic reasons my Romulan will join the KDF. The uniforms look more romulan and after joining they also get the angry KDF faces.

before and after siding with kdf, some sliders.
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...romneutral.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...eem/romkdf.jpg

Would be nice to have the choice for what face style to use though
Apparently that's a bug.


It'd be nice if there was a hard incentive for players to go Rom-KDF.
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# 24
04-20-2013, 04:56 AM
Yeah, I noticed this on my playthrough.

You get absolutely no help from the feds, Sugohara pretty much just talks your ear off, ALL THE INFILTRATORS ARE FEDS (no klingon/KDF race infiltrators), and it pretty much just sours you on the fed.

I mean I was playing a character who, thematically, was my fed main's first officer.

And I *still* felt like I made the wrong choice picking fed.


The turning point mission needs changes, and in general there needs to be more fed friendly dialogue and selling of the faction to the player.


In specific, I'd like to see:


1. Randomize the infiltrators during "The Turning Point" so they're not all feds, but a mix of feds and KDF.

2. Receive aid from a fed diplomatic ship during the space portion of "The Turning Point". Starfleet loves to send Galaxy classes on diplomatic missions, so have the USS Venture or something show up half-way through the mission.

I mean the Kang pops out and starts helping you- but the Fed should be delayed. The Kang represents the Klingons and their glory in battle, honorable combat, and standing together.

The Venture (or whatever) should show up for the fight with Hakeev (and that fight should be beefed up accordingly).

There should be some added dialogue, where the captain of the Kang is like "If you wanted glory, you should've been here earlier", and Sugohara goes "Well starfleet doesn't just go charging off when there are wounded to be treated" (or something along those lines).

Basically you need to not just have it be KLINGONS KLINGONS KLINGONS, and actually sell the starfleet side of things.
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# 25
04-20-2013, 05:05 AM
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I felt a little slant towards the KDF when doing the Khitomer mission. Also the choice backgroud even had a subliminal join the KDF edge. You had a prim and proper lass holding a tricorder, or Billy Badass with his phaser... now who would you choose?
Frankly, the one not showing me their ass.

I didn't feel any particular urging from the story to go KDF.

The Feds haven't stepped in before because, yes, it's an internal matter among the Romulans. As far as they are concerned, D'tan's faction including yourself is a rebel group opposing the legitimate Imperial government. D'tan set up the conference precisely because he wanted to be legitimized as a political entity, which is what it takes for the Federation to do business with them. And they didn't offer help AT the conference because if they did, the Klingons would call them out for violating the cease fire agreement.

If anything, the fact that Ja'ord is willing to bend his orders and go in guns blazing on your behalf just because he has a good feeling about you should raise some serious flags about how stable and reliable the KDF is.
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# 26
04-20-2013, 05:19 AM
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There should be some added dialogue, where the captain of the Kang is like "If you wanted glory, you should've been here earlier", and Sugohara goes "Well starfleet doesn't just go charging off when there are wounded to be treated" (or something along those lines).
No one was wounded when you beamed up. Tovan just recognized Elachi energy signatures in space.

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Frankly, the one not showing me their ass.

I didn't feel any particular urging from the story to go KDF.

The Feds haven't stepped in before because, yes, it's an internal matter among the Romulans. As far as they are concerned, D'tan's faction including yourself is a rebel group opposing the legitimate Imperial government. D'tan set up the conference precisely because he wanted to be legitimized as a political entity, which is what it takes for the Federation to do business with them. And they didn't offer help AT the conference because if they did, the Klingons would call them out for violating the cease fire agreement.

If anything, the fact that Ja'ord is willing to bend his orders and go in guns blazing on your behalf just because he has a good feeling about you should raise some serious flags about how stable and reliable the KDF is.
I don't think you get the picture. Khitomer is in Klingon space. The Klingons had allowed 3 foreign delegations there, the Federation, the Romulan Empire and the Romulan Republic. The Romulan Empire brought along uninvited allies (the Elachi) and multiple cloaked warships who attacked the Romulan Republic,. Ja'rod wasn't bending any orders, the Romulan Empire violated the terms under which they were allowed there.
And the Federation should by now have gotten that the Klingons don't respect people who stay back during a battle. The longest-lasting peace with the Klingons was due to the actions of the Enterprise-C. And Fed who had half a brain would try to repeat that any chance they get.
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# 27
04-20-2013, 06:13 AM
Now what kind of self respecting Romulan would align themselves with Starfleet?
You'd unwittingly aid in the underhanded assimilation of the Romulan people into the Federation.
Going from one political nightmare into another, with little concern to non-protocol.

Hell, just look at the Maquis! Starfleet left them to the hounds when it was considered 'politically inconvenient.'
Just to save their own hides. Now, at least the Imperial Empire has some honesty and good reasoning behind
their actions, just look at the Gorn subjugation- it was to annihilate Undine infiltrators. Not to mention they're
at least a bit more like the old Romulan Star Empire and are known to be similar in mentality to the Romulans.

They've even made alliances with Romulans before which were historically beneficial for both sides.

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As I've said elsewhere, I'm not going to join up with a faction that's so barbaric that it can't stock its tailors with non-spiked boots for its female members.
As I've said before, Mirai, it simply isn't Klingon to go into battle with an Earth fashion sense.
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# 28
04-20-2013, 06:47 AM
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As I've said elsewhere, I'm not going to join up with a faction that's so barbaric that it can't stock its tailors with non-spiked boots for its female members.
The female romulan klingon uniforms have two boot styles with high heels and no spikes.

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# 29
04-20-2013, 06:53 AM
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You get absolutely no help from the feds, Sugohara pretty much just talks your ear off, ALL THE INFILTRATORS ARE FEDS (no klingon/KDF race infiltrators), and it pretty much just sours you on the fed.
To be fair, it's easier for a Romulan to claim to be Vulcan than any of the Klingon races.
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# 30
04-20-2013, 07:04 AM
I joined the federation without question, I like the federation ships a lot and i eventually want my romi to get the fleet defiant. I will make a romi on klingon side too eventually but for now im joining fed.
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