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# 11
04-24-2013, 12:48 PM
Since Android is essentially a fork of Linux (the new Ubuntu mobile initiative is supposed to run on the droid kernel side-by-side), I fully anticipate more emulation options (a la WINE) in Android tablets once the hardware becomes more robust.

Using DOSBox people are already getting WindowsXP running on Nexus7 level tablets with relative ease, so probably in the near future we can expect better tablet gaming options.

It is going to be a while, but we'll get there.

And to the naysayers on the basis of control schemes, one or two of the Android DOSBox emulators have extremely intuitive and easy to use ways of emulation mouse and keyboard, so there is hope.

Cheers!
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# 12
04-24-2013, 01:02 PM
Just because it's Linux doesn't mean much - there are linux builds for almost every CPU you can imagine, but programs aren't automatically compatible with all of them.

Issue is Wine isn't a full fledged emulator, only an API. It still requires a native x86 environment to run on. The name is a recursive acronym for "Wine is not an emulator." Winelib does exist for ARM, but it's extremely limited on what can and can't run since most binaries require an x86 environment - you can run Minesweeper (as long as it's not the Windows XP or newer versions), and most things you'd compile in Visual Basic, but other programs need to be compiled to run with Winelib on ARM.

Those Windows XP installs require an x86 emulator, which destroys performance pretty bad - you're basically getting about 10-25% of the equivalent processor power into the copy of Windows you're emulating. That's enough to run Windows 95 pretty well, but Windows XP just barely limps along, the emulated CPU doesn't technically meet XP's minimum CPU requirement.


There is a Windows 8 RT build that runs on ARM processors, and you can load it into some very high end android tablets if you get your hands on it or pay too much for a Surface tablet (not Surface Pro, which is full fledged Windows 8 with an x86 processor), but it can only run Windows executables compiled for ARM environments, so again, x86 locks you out.

Surface Pro, like I said, full Windows 8 and a compatible processor. There's been persistent rumors of an x86 Ubuntu tablet for the last few months, and if it ever materializes Wine on that will be an option.

tl;dr: Wine's not feasible for the next decade easily, but Surface Pro is an option.

Last edited by hevach; 04-24-2013 at 01:24 PM.
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# 13
12-03-2013, 10:03 PM
there are blue tooth enabled keyboards and mouse that you can buy for what you own for a tablet. I just hope that the devs can find the time to make a sto app that we can download so we can have fun being on sto.
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# 14
12-29-2013, 11:16 AM
Does anyone have a confirmed list of tablets that can run STO?
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# 15
12-31-2013, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dracounguis View Post
Even if it did run on a tablet, controlling stuff would be a huge pain in the posterior! No mouse, no keyboard, no direct neural interface, no cupholder... I mean what'd be the point of playing without those?
He's taking about an Asus Transformer. They have a keyboard dock.

Launcher 7 is a windows 7 emulator app which might work for that.

edit: also, that is not a cupholder, that is a CD rom...

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# 16
12-31-2013, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by anasaziscout View Post
edit: also, that is not a cupholder, that is a CD rom...
You've clearly never met many of the users for whom I repair business computers.
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# 17
12-31-2013, 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by dracounguis View Post
Even if it did run on a tablet, controlling stuff would be a huge pain in the posterior! No mouse, no keyboard, no direct neural interface, no cupholder... I mean what'd be the point of playing without those?
Would be cool to handle doff assignments though! Eagerly awaiting the day we can do it through gateway!
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# 18
12-31-2013, 05:47 AM
I have a friend who was able to play STO on a Surface. He says it's pretty slick, except he has trouble getting all of the HUD to show.
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# 19
12-31-2013, 05:59 AM
I have a dream... ...a dream of an app that is dedicated to doffing.
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# 20
12-31-2013, 09:06 AM
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Even if it did run on a tablet, controlling stuff would be a huge pain in the posterior! No mouse, no keyboard, no direct neural interface, no cupholder... I mean what'd be the point of playing without those?
Finding a computer with a cup holder was one of my top priorities when I purchased my last machine.
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