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# 41
05-09-2013, 07:03 PM
House of Torg: The storyline is been cut and pasted, it has not been revised to account for the changes. In short, its sloppy.

Like with the Romulans, it needs to be specific it's the Tal Shiar you are fighting than the Romulan Republic (which you established in a previous mission). And explaining better why Torg's dealings is something to be spurned.



Space Battle still has not been fixed after all these years, where there is no reinforcements at the third space station, and with BOFFs with Hazzard Emitters or Emergency Shields 1, it makes it a tough battle.

House of Torg itself, while many decorations have been added, but Torg's Throne room still seems significantly devoid of anything. Which seems ironic that you decorate the whole place but this one room.

Also, it's disappointing that more doors haven't been added so it doesn't seem like an obvious 1-way. Because how many houses is one continuous hallway?


BOFFS: Got Promoted and got mroe BOFFS, and these BOFFs need to be changed to have skills suited for KDF in Escorts.

I would change them at the BOFF Vendor, even after reaching Level 10, I have yet to earn any EC to even train the basic of skills. This serious lack of funds really puts a damper on trying to get the game how you play. And it also sets a bad presidence when it comes to new players, because they think you end up with such layouts and then they do PvP or difficult PvE and wonder why they are doing so baddly and quit.


Forcas Tournament (optional): Storyline needs another look, seems like the dots aren't connecting like the House of Torg.

Worf continues about M'Ven and getting revenge, which with the new version has already taken place. Then he tells you to get a Bat'leth at the crate, which was the old version.
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Hi,

Well what can i say but, WOW!. You have done an awesome job completing the klingon Faction and in fact you put in the garnish that makes it completely compelling and true Trek!. I agreed with a lot of what the STO community had said about the klingon faction before this new content as being only half finished and forgotten, But, Really saw the potential of Expansion.

One of the really "Fun" or "Amazing" things i found in the klingons in the Expansion, is the Acting of the V.O and the attention to make it as compelling as the TV Series to provide Depth and Immersion into the story's, Where i say is the Icing on the cake or Garnish, its really important and i see and Feel that when i play the klingon missions.

The story's are Strong and very compelling in my view on the expansion, the Klingon side of the story makes more sense now and Easier to get into the story and i think that new players will find their way a lot clearer and trekkie friendly so they probably will be more compelled to give the game a go. The Help narrator is another significant addition thats going to be a winner for new players as STO lacked a simple way to just play the game and figure the perks out later, this is how i looked at sto the first time i played.

If there is one suggestion on improving the games long term enjoyment would be to Expand on Leveling up past Level 50 so that even After the Stories are finished, users still have to work their way up the ranks via perhaps slightly altered storyline missions to give the feeling of "There at it again" and players re-play missions randomly for Higher MK gear to mabey level 100?. Some people would disagree with leveling up after the story's are finished and they usually point out theres nothing left to do, But, If a meaningful purpose on Replay's is provided and STO's Story content is Expanded Further, then there's gonna be plenty of things to do. I know the Reputation system is similar to what i'm proposing, But, Its not a thing that drives a player to "Give it a go" because theres not enough Story or propose to them except the added perks, I mean what do we do with MK XII gear once the reputation is max level except Fleet and PVE?

I see that we still have the original FE Missions integrated into the Story, But Feel that they haven't been Expanded upon as there are inconsistent Story Elements with the Expansion giving an out of order feel to them, i recommend a little rewording of the Borg and Undine missions to relate them better to the storyline by adding Que's to previous mission arks so it all fits?.

CONS:

1: The New Help Narrator talks over ambassador Spock's narration and some mission Cut scenes.

2: There is Sound distortions in Voice overs that yell in the game.

3: Text in Cutscenes Still pass too Quickly.

4: Some Cutscenes show players character standing in space Before loading screen kicks in or a Scene element thats meant to be seen After a particular Cutscene.

5: Game performance has some low FPS perhaps caused by Fire animation or Smoke Soft edge's coming into contact with Shadowed or light refracted walls.

Again, Fine work, Cryptic team your still impressing me, i think your going to be rewarded well for this effort, Just keep Pulsing It and the key is Storyline Expansion.
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# 43
05-10-2013, 01:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by azurianstar View Post
House of Torg: The storyline is been cut and pasted, it has not been revised to account for the changes. In short, its sloppy.

Like with the Romulans, it needs to be specific it's the Tal Shiar you are fighting than the Romulan Republic (which you established in a previous mission). And explaining better why Torg's dealings is something to be spurned.



Space Battle still has not been fixed after all these years, where there is no reinforcements at the third space station, and with BOFFs with Hazzard Emitters or Emergency Shields 1, it makes it a tough battle.

House of Torg itself, while many decorations have been added, but Torg's Throne room still seems significantly devoid of anything. Which seems ironic that you decorate the whole place but this one room.

Also, it's disappointing that more doors haven't been added so it doesn't seem like an obvious 1-way. Because how many houses is one continuous hallway?


BOFFS: Got Promoted and got mroe BOFFS, and these BOFFs need to be changed to have skills suited for KDF in Escorts.

I would change them at the BOFF Vendor, even after reaching Level 10, I have yet to earn any EC to even train the basic of skills. This serious lack of funds really puts a damper on trying to get the game how you play. And it also sets a bad presidence when it comes to new players, because they think you end up with such layouts and then they do PvP or difficult PvE and wonder why they are doing so baddly and quit.


Forcas Tournament (optional): Storyline needs another look, seems like the dots aren't connecting like the House of Torg.

Worf continues about M'Ven and getting revenge, which with the new version has already taken place. Then he tells you to get a Bat'leth at the crate, which was the old version.
Forcas III is extremely sloppy and you feel it's all over the place.

House of Torg is alright I reckon, but the Boff layout's given to you are a bit stupid. Bit annoying having to face a dozen bop's at once in a pretty much fail setup.

Boff's in general - now I don't agree with them forcing you to an escort since klingons don't use them unless you mean raptor. But Boff abilities in general given to the KDF, I mean who honestly would use a setup like that? Engineering Team and Tractor Beam are possibly the last two abilities I want immediately. I'd rather have emergency power to shields and hazard emitters, eventually replacing high yield with a tac team.
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# 44
05-10-2013, 02:09 AM
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Forcas III is extremely sloppy and you feel it's all over the place.
Yes, Forcas II is sloppy, as much of the redone KDF missions.

It's like an angry waitress flopping your order in front of you, after asking them to redo it, because it was half done. This is the impression im getting with Cryptic with the KDF content.

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Originally Posted by vitzh View Post
House of Torg is alright I reckon, but the Boff layout's given to you are a bit stupid. Bit annoying having to face a dozen bop's at once in a pretty much fail setup.
Yes, the BOFF layouts are bad (outside of High Yield 1). They claim to play KDF but yet why not setup the BOFF layout to help out new players?

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Originally Posted by vitzh View Post
Boff's in general - now I don't agree with them forcing you to an escort since klingons don't use them unless you mean raptor. But Boff abilities in general given to the KDF, I mean who honestly would use a setup like that? Engineering Team and Tractor Beam are possibly the last two abilities I want immediately. I'd rather have emergency power to shields and hazard emitters, eventually replacing high yield with a tac team.
Raptors? BoPs and Cannon-equipped Battlecruisers in the early tiers use practically the same setup.

But yes, High Yield 1, Rapid Fire 1, Emergency Shield 1, and Hazzard Emitters 1. Perfect layout for new players, unless they purposely throwing bad builds to encourage them to use their heads, which they likely don't realize until later on when things really get tough.
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# 45
05-10-2013, 02:17 AM
One thing you can rely on in STO is for players NOT to use their heads! XD

One issue I do feel is that with Romulan's getting the Dhelan at ltcmdr, what's the point of getting a Raptor or Escort?

Dhelan has shields of the Escort, turn rate of Both, more crew, a better Boff layout, and a battlecloak? As it stands the only vessels I feel that stand a chance against this monster are the science vessel, bird of prey and perhaps battlecruiser. A new player is going to get steamrolled by Romulan's in Kerrat and in competitive pve.

And yeah probably should go in Romulan feedback, but with early progression comparing these ships you often wonder why you bothered going KDF?
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# 46
05-10-2013, 02:22 AM
But Romulans can't get Tier 5 ships and the Lower-Tiered allied ships can only be bought with Dilithium (which by the time you earned enough, you would've leveled up).

And yes, Romulans will steamroll, especially those with the C-store ships with the additional BOFF slot.
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# 47
05-10-2013, 03:07 AM
That is true, Romulans are quite fun at lower tiers but when you get to tier 4-5 I feel like all their entertainment value wears off.

Btw why hasn't fed vs kdf pvp been reincluded for tier 1 and 2 since we've got the Empire starting at 1? Some of the biggest appeal of being a Klingon is disintegrating Feds! New players will want to try that immediately.
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# 48
05-10-2013, 07:15 AM
I agree. Its odd to not have access to low level PvP.
Hopefully an oversight and not an attempt to protect the low level feds from us KDF.

The scale of the Houses do not bother me. Considering some house of the Empire control whole systems let alone whole planets I expect a grand scale.

One little touch I do like is the sidescreen extra dialouge between your toon and Boffs while on a mission.
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Last edited by bitemepwe; 05-10-2013 at 07:21 AM.
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# 49
05-10-2013, 07:21 AM
So the infamous run round Qo'nos tutorial mission is still in game lol. And I am still only KDF in Kerrat lol
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# 50
05-10-2013, 08:41 AM
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So the infamous run round Qo'nos tutorial mission is still in game lol. And I am still only KDF in Kerrat lol
Only KDF? Only KDF? You where born whatever race you may be on whim. Your KDF by the grace of the Empire.
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