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# 11
05-14-2013, 11:48 AM
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There are some parallels with Schisms. Allegiance doesn't fit much, or at all really, almost certainly separate aliens.

The definite reference is the Enterprise episode Silent Enemy, however. Similar ship design, obviously the same aliens with similar technology and dress, same method of communication (playing your hail back to you with the words reordered), etc. Any inconsistencies with other aliens are easy enough to pass off, because the Elachi are definitely the Silent Enemy aliens, parallels to other aliens may be coincidental.
Yes, the two were seperate aliens. But in STO the team definitely linked the two.

In the Installation mission, they definitely make the connection when the prisoners were mentioning the same things that happened in Schisms, like one had an exact experience as Riker in having his arm removed and reattached.
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# 12
05-14-2013, 12:07 PM
I know, the ones in Allegiance are the ones I'm saying are almost certainly separate. The OP linked them into the Elachi as well, but almost nothing of their actions beyond abduction (which they share with a few other factions as well) fits.
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# 13
05-14-2013, 12:12 PM
Also the portal graphic used in the cutscene in the Cardassian ship was very similar. Schisms

But the Elachi don't look much like the Solanagen lifeforms.

Some of the Elachi, especially the Beta Elachi, bear a close resemblance to the aliens that attacked Archer. So do their ships.
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# 14
05-14-2013, 08:38 PM
Crazy, i watched the "silent enemy" ep and i understand the link with the Elachi there too, just as you guys suggest. Perhaps Cryptic are building the Elachi story from several different aliens, because really it points to several trek Episodes discussed here.

Enterprise had so much more story left and when rick berman stopped writing was a truly sad day for us Trekkies. Star trek lives on here and if Cryptic are looking into Episode arks, they could continue these storylines in Star trek online and let us play the story's out, It feels like Cryptic are giving this a go and im all for it.

Theres one thing i find funny about elachi Missions?...... Finding a banana split dropped from an Elachi . I think Cryptic need to give unique drops in different universes as finding things like Prune juce is quite Earthly LOL
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# 15
05-14-2013, 09:48 PM
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Also the portal graphic used in the cutscene in the Cardassian ship was very similar. Schisms

But the Elachi don't look much like the Solanagen lifeforms.

Some of the Elachi, especially the Beta Elachi, bear a close resemblance to the aliens that attacked Archer. So do their ships.
My guess the Elachi will be explained as either some sort of grouping of multiple species, or they have some sort of caste system where the aliens from "Schisms" are the "worker" caste and the "Silent Enemy" ones were the "warriors".
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# 16
05-14-2013, 09:58 PM
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My guess the Elachi will be explained as either some sort of grouping of multiple species, or they have some sort of caste system where the aliens from "Schisms" are the "worker" caste and the "Silent Enemy" ones were the "warriors".
I hope this is true. There's definatly some mystery's in the Vacuum (Air) to be anticipated. Perhaps this subspace realm is where all of these aliens come from, including iconians?. The Elachi are sending messages to someone about the Cloning of romulans that seem to be ordering the Elachi to do this work.

It is quite possible that "Elachi" are a group of alien beings like the "Xindi" and Iconians are their Supirors. As said in this, were all agreeing that Elachi may very well be a group force and if so, STO goes past transwarp to blow our minds to M33
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# 17
05-14-2013, 10:20 PM
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Yes, the two were seperate aliens. But in STO the team definitely linked the two.

In the Installation mission, they definitely make the connection when the prisoners were mentioning the same things that happened in Schisms, like one had an exact experience as Riker in having his arm removed and reattached.
when i saw that specific part i suspected a connection but i dont share the idea, mostly because these ENT aliens can live in our dimension for a prolonged amount of time, these other aliens from TNG can not and appear as just energy. these elachi may hide their base in subspace, probably not to get noticed in the prime universe as to what they are doing, it doesnt mean however that they are subspace beings in any form, and as for the arm cutting, they appear to have no qualms about using aliens for their own purpose, so what better way to learn about this then to cut an arm off.

but then im forgetting the earlier mission on a damaged keldon class ship owned by the true way, that showed a recording of one of these cardassians being taken to these TNG aliens, however again there is no direct connection, it could entirely be coincidental. who is the say that these cardassians were not running tests deep into the subspace bands and wanted to repeat the TNG experiment with the Laforge array, meanwhile the cardassian ship was knocked out by these ENT aliens and wanted some of them to experiment on of their own like they did with orions, gorn, romulans, remans and perhaps humans as well. in that chaos these subspace aliens could of used that to get their own subjects.
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# 18
05-14-2013, 10:28 PM
So they live in subspace?

Hmm... Omega thingy destroys subspace right? I call on opening a rift then firing some omega molucues through it.
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# 19
05-14-2013, 10:56 PM
Hehe.... the Captain level Elachi have a skill that creates portals similar to the one Riker got pulled through. What does the skill do? anyone standing too close gets a jam sensors like effect...
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# 20
05-16-2013, 12:35 AM
I think its important to point out in Schisms that Laforge, when trying to track the area of subspace the aliens came from, mentions that it could be one of thousands of layers.

The Elachi backstory, while inspired by Schisms, are clearly not the same aliens at all. The Elachi are in normal space 200 years before Schisms, in which those aliens are unable to enter normal space at all.
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