Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 171
05-19-2013, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by wardcalis View Post
Fix the turn rate for the D'Deridex, It is so bad, it's the greatest ship in startrek history and it's unplayable because of the turn.
I just fitted a Warbird once i had reached Commander. That ship turns slower than the Galaxy Class, so if anyone has any suggestions they would be greatly appreciated.
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# 172
05-19-2013, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by snoggymack22 View Post
How many more insults can you jam pack into one post? Yet none of it changes the facts.

Fact: You don't enjoy turning slow.
Fact: You don't enjoy the D'Deridex because it turns slow.

That has nothing to do with the ship's effectiveness. Just your own enjoyment of it.

Many testers have told you in this very thread that the ship is effective.

I get it. You don't enjoy it. But that isn't a strong enough reason to change the ship. As those same testers have told you, to get the upped turn rate, it will lose other things in a tradeoff. Most likely get a BOFF setup that you won't enjoy.

At this point just count your losses and fly something else.



The JHAS has enough engineering capability that it doesn't really matter. It's the best ship in the game for what you find enjoyable. Not my fault that you act like a medieval monk and flagellate yourself by flying something you thoroughly dislike when you can easily switch to something that does everything you want to do in a fun, easy, enjoyable manner.
Fact its not effective. Its crap.
Fact its the only Romulan ship at Tier 4.
Fact People have been playing Escorts up until it.
Fact It never should have been given the same turn rate as a Carrier.

Can people play it?
Yes
Does that mean we should?
No
Is there anything that makes up for its weaknesses?
Not really, because it means sacrificing other things to make up for them.
Do we have another choice for Romulans?
Not if we want to fly a Romulan ship...

So no we have to fly the crap turn rate battlecruiser, because otherwise we won't be Romulans...
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# 173
05-19-2013, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by focht666 View Post
Fact its not effective. Its crap.
Fact its the only Romulan ship at Tier 4.
Fact People have been playing Escorts up until it.
Fact It never should have been given the same turn rate as a Carrier.

Can people play it?
Yes
Does that mean we should?
No
Is there anything that makes up for its weaknesses?
Not really, because it means sacrificing other things to make up for them.
Do we have another choice for Romulans?
Not if we want to fly a Romulan ship...

So no we have to fly the crap turn rate battlecruiser, because otherwise we won't be Romulans...
Fact escorts are not king L2P
Fact its turn rate is fine, dont play it like a escort

I will play it, it handles fine once again...L2P or use a diferent ship
sacraficing other things??? LMAO L2P...battle cloak increases your turn rate..what are you sacraficing there? Evasive manuevers enhances turn...once again sacrafice what?
Use attack pattern omega 1 for the ltc tac slot...fixxed
use auxilliary to intertial dampners...fixxed

Theres no other romulan ships eh? Ya your forced to fly the Big D if you want to be Romulan...k

Redo your skills and strategies or just go back to escorts after 10 levels

the ship is fine the way it is, I can solo elite tac cubes with it on test just fine
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# 174
05-19-2013, 11:14 AM
when i played the d'd during open beta i had no problems maneuvering and finding my target no matter how quickly it was going because i always played smart vs the NPC's. its not the worst ship i have ran across at all, even the carrier can be a beast by playing smart with not only the right use of captain skills, but boff layout and skills as well a bit of opportunistic last second thinking if needed.
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Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 13,590
# 175
05-19-2013, 11:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by focht666 View Post
Fact its not effective. Its crap.
Fact its the only Romulan ship at Tier 4.
Fact People have been playing Escorts up until it.
Fact It never should have been given the same turn rate as a Carrier.

Can people play it?
Yes
Does that mean we should?
No
Is there anything that makes up for its weaknesses?
Not really, because it means sacrificing other things to make up for them.
Do we have another choice for Romulans?
Not if we want to fly a Romulan ship...

So no we have to fly the crap turn rate battlecruiser, because otherwise we won't be Romulans...
You should learn to exploit it's strengths rather than ignorign their existence.
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Ensign
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 28
# 176
05-19-2013, 11:31 AM
Can I put skin of D'Deridex on my Galor or DKora?

Pretty please
Commander
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Posts: 405
# 177
05-19-2013, 12:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bunansa View Post
Fact escorts are not king L2P
Fact its turn rate is fine, dont play it like a escort

I will play it, it handles fine once again...L2P or use a diferent ship
sacraficing other things??? LMAO L2P...battle cloak increases your turn rate..what are you sacraficing there? Evasive manuevers enhances turn...once again sacrafice what?
Use attack pattern omega 1 for the ltc tac slot...fixxed
use auxilliary to intertial dampners...fixxed

Theres no other romulan ships eh? Ya your forced to fly the Big D if you want to be Romulan...k

Redo your skills and strategies or just go back to escorts after 10 levels

the ship is fine the way it is, I can solo elite tac cubes with it on test just fine
Perhaps read some other posts before replying would be beneficial, since you seem to be missing the whole point about the ship's lackluster pvp potential.

You don't need much more than a 1 turn rate to solo tac cubes. Pve is not the issue in question, but rather its effectiveness in pvp, as has been stated many times here.

Asking for a slightly higher is not asking for it to handle like an escort, as has been stated many times here.

Your solutions don't fix the underlying problem as other ships can employ those same skills for a much better result.

It is fine for pve, as everything is. For pvp, the turn just makes the ship a poor contender.
Commander
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 292
# 178
05-19-2013, 12:50 PM
PvP is essentiually borked right now, why base any ship changes on it till they sort it out.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 80
# 179
05-19-2013, 01:21 PM
just hopped onto tribble using my rom tac(50) and put this on the free d'd we get.

not cloaked. 10.8 turn with no buffs and only 1 rcs
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...9-14-06-38.jpg

cloaked. 26.7 turn with no buffs and only 1 rcs
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...9-14-07-06.jpg

overall happy with it and definately a bc no changes needed that i see
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# 180
05-19-2013, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by daggermoon View Post
just hopped onto tribble using my rom tac(50) and put this on the free d'd we get.

not cloaked. 10.8 turn with no buffs and only 1 rcs
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...9-14-06-38.jpg

cloaked. 26.7 turn with no buffs and only 1 rcs
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...9-14-07-06.jpg

overall happy with it and definitely a bc no changes needed that i see
Thank you for these shots. could you blow them up bigger so i can see the names of your equipment?
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