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# 181
05-19-2013, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by roman1229 View Post
Thank you for these shots. could you blow them up bigger so i can see the names of your equipment?
lol nothing special i just reran the rom story arcs at lvl 50 to get upgraded stuff and the sets for tholian rep you can get at ds9
the cannons got from the vendor at new rom command their white ix plasma dhc's, netronium 9's a green and blue shield cap enhancer and 2 plasma tac consoles

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# 182
05-19-2013, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by begerac View Post
Can I put skin of D'Deridex on my Galor or DKora?

Pretty please
I think you can with holo emitters?
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# 183
05-19-2013, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cha0s1428 View Post
Perhaps read some other posts before replying would be beneficial, since you seem to be missing the whole point about the ship's lackluster pvp potential.

You don't need much more than a 1 turn rate to solo tac cubes. Pve is not the issue in question, but rather its effectiveness in pvp, as has been stated many times here.

Asking for a slightly higher is not asking for it to handle like an escort, as has been stated many times here.

Your solutions don't fix the underlying problem as other ships can employ those same skills for a much better result.

It is fine for pve, as everything is. For pvp, the turn just makes the ship a poor contender.
I have read every single post at least twice. This thread is one of my main keep an eyes on, why CAUSE THE D IS FINE...stop trying to apply what you know ingame currently to the warbirds, they dont fly, the same, if they did we wouldnt have battle cloak

For pvp purposes it handles fine, infact the only issues ive seen it really have from my end with testing my own fleet has done is against the sci vessels with their cloak finding, it keeps the ship from dropping right ontop of the enemy and taking it down in 2 shots, it can be done almost against the escorts and cruisers, sci on the other hand, not as effective, course im not running purple stealth consoles and the higher singularity build up the easier it is to find the ship
but, she makes up for it where her sheer armor/hull
with a ltc tac slot, and a ltc sci slot the ship is very damn versatile as a cruiser LIKE vessel and can have alot of interesting build set ups

Its a matter of getting use to the ship as she is, increasing the turn rate will only decrease other areas...prime example...vesta, she was bantered around so much in design it almost broke the ship completly...and all because of PVP

News Flash this game isnt solely for pvp, if it was all the end game content would focus around that and not stfs, fleet actions, fleet mark missions, romulan mark missions, the CE

PVP imo should never be considered a factor for balance, balance is a word that should be weighed very carefully in any subject topic, if it doesnt work in pvp dont use it, theres other ships. Or as I had stated before, try learning some new and unorthodox tactics for the ship, shes not a fed cruiser nor kdf battle cruiser...she is ...a ...WARBIRD
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# 184
05-19-2013, 10:52 PM
You didn't obviously read this one at all, its on page 17

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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot
people that are inexperienced, and i guess kinda humble about it, are ignorant enough to assume that theres a way for everything that the masses complain about to be flown just fine. it isn't the case, and the more experience and knowledge you have, the less likely you are to blurt out oh thats fine, you all just need to change your play style, its you not the ship. to me, thats a tell. of someone who is not qualified to make any sort of judgement call about any of that.
The entire post was awesome.

The D'Deridex is NOT fine, its not going to be fine as it currently is.

However, to anyone who thinks it is fine, great, be fine with it.
Get it, play it enjoy it.

The rest of us know that as it is, one the novelty wears off this ship is not going to see much play.

The Galaxy is an iconic Star Trek ship
...and a Star Trek 'Online' failure, especially the Galaxy-X

We would like Cryptic not to do the same thing to the D'Deridex.
But the way it currently is, its just not a viable ship.

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# 185
05-19-2013, 11:11 PM
Ok, everybody saying the D'Deridex is fine, then by your same logic, the Galaxy and Bortas are fine too. And we see those all over the place, right? Oh wait, no we don't. Because they're ****.
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# 186
05-19-2013, 11:20 PM
Except the Odyssey is the most flexible cruiser in the game due to its layout and the Bortas only suffers from the "Escort effect" were nobody really tried to make it work at launch, most KDF players just looked, seen 5.5 and gone "eek" as usual.

None of those ships are broken, only players that simply want to make everything a Defiant or Bug ship are broken.
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# 187
05-19-2013, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by aveimperator View Post
Ok, everybody saying the D'Deridex is fine, then by your same logic, the Galaxy and Bortas are fine too. And we see those all over the place, right? Oh wait, no we don't. Because they're ****.
You could always fly one of the other Romulan battlecruisers. There's three to choose from. One of them has to mirror the Excelsior that you want the Romulans to have, right?
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# 188
05-19-2013, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lnterphase View Post
You didn't obviously read this one at all, its on page 17



The entire post was awesome.

The D'Deridex is NOT fine, its not going to be fine as it currently is.

However, to anyone who thinks it is fine, great, be fine with it.
Get it, play it enjoy it.

The rest of us know that as it is, one the novelty wears off this ship is not going to see much play.

The Galaxy is an iconic Star Trek ship
...and a Star Trek 'Online' failure, especially the Galaxy-X

We would like Cryptic not to do the same thing to the D'Deridex.
But the way it currently is, its just not a viable ship.
Yep I read it, dont judge because of what I say, Judge by what I do, and what I do is call you people out, there I said it.

IT IS FINE
its not the galaxy or galaxy-x, but guess what I see people do fly them, the reason not in great numbers isnt because they suck, its because the endgame is DPS PEW PEW I WIN SHIPS

It handles just peachy, as I have stated SEVERAL TIMES, relearn the mecahinics of the warbirds, they ARE NOT FED OR KDF SHIPS

Tactics must be changed, builds must be changed, because its not the same bloody cookie cutter ship as whats already ingame and what some are comfortable with doesnt mean it needs to be changed, get out of the comfort zone and try to learn it from a new approach.

Bortas isnt used alot because its not a carrier, its true, id say a good 40% of the kdf faction is carrier based in some fashion, its the kdfs bread and butter honest, I tend to like the battle cruisers as well so I go back and forth, The bortas, was not appealing to many like the oddy, everyone seems to think that fast wins...there is this age old tale about a rabbit and a turtle...

The whole debate truly is the fact that PVP wants it to be something its not meant to be but cant seem to wrap around this idea. I can safely make a bet and say the D'Deridex in its current form will see a steady usage. Will it be the most used ship, nope, its not PEW PEW enough for most children who live off of ADD in today's world. But it will most likely be around 30% of the ships seen floating around, maybe 25% wich honestly is good considering many will use the tvaro or mogai as well, all in all there is only 4 ships that truly grab the interest of many romulan fans and us fans will use those ships, adapt, and overcome any shortgivings they might have, or percieved to have.

Anyone who disagrees can do so its a free game, choose what you want to fly but dont impose change because you dont understand the mechanics, its the same thing since mmos came out, class A is better than Class B in PVP so I shall cry hard and loud till my Class B is better even tho it is me who should change not the Class B.
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# 189
05-19-2013, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by snoggymack22 View Post
You could always fly one of the other Romulan battlecruisers. There's three to choose from. One of them has to mirror the Excelsior that you want the Romulans to have, right?
There's three? I thought there was only 2? D'deridex, Ha'....something or other. What's the third?
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# 190
05-20-2013, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by aveimperator View Post
Ok, everybody saying the D'Deridex is fine, then by your same logic, the Galaxy and Bortas are fine too. And we see those all over the place, right? Oh wait, no we don't. Because they're ****.
there is way more wrong with the galaxy then just the turn rate main it;s 2 tac consoles and it's over engineer bloated layout

and i see on averaget 1 bortas in every STF i join way more then galaxies
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