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# 1 The Elachi are ridiculus!
05-17-2013, 02:24 AM
Why are we even bothering to fight the Elachi? Clearly they are invincible space gods, and we should probably just roll over and let them do whatever they please. Because honestly, after seeing the Elachi command ship wave at new Romulus wipe out the entire fleet (bar the hero ships, who are basically on an endless repair cycle), and dieing five times before taking down a single shield facing on the command ship while flying the D'Deridex, I honestly don't even know where to begin? Who exactly finds repeated death for no gain fun?

This character is why I don't play my Romulan any more. Tovan Khev is NOT my BFF! Get him off my bridge!
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# 2
05-17-2013, 02:38 AM
You just need a better ship configuration.
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# 3
05-17-2013, 02:44 AM
never bothered leveling up that high, again, but it sounds like theres an actually challenging mission to look forward too. unless all this wineing about it gets it nerfed into nothing. seriously, the average pve'er uses their ship to about 10% of its potential, and the devs balance the pve based on those people. thats why space pve is so frigging bad.
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# 4
05-17-2013, 02:56 AM
This mission got so irritating I ended up throwing on my cloak and letting the Fed and KDF allied ships do the dirty work. Just couldn't stand it any more. The difficulty spike on the last wave is insane, I had gone through the entire Elachi mission arc without difficulty (although not without frustration - seriously, they're the most annoying enemies to date) until that point. Every ship in that wave has a huge area of effect attack, they all can trap you. So you get hit by inescapble tractor beams, then whallopped by multiple AoE kill shots. And by the time you respawn and fly back, they've recharged their abilities, and the whole thing starts over again! Also, their damage appears to bypass shields almost entirely, and when they do attack your shields, I've had full strength facings drop entirely in a single volley.

Edit: I know my setup is probably considerably weaker than my setups on Holodeck, seeing as how it's much harder to come by the good gear on Tribble. The Exchange has seemed practically empty at times. Even so, given the level this mission is supposed to be played at, I would expect the majority of players will be coming at it with the low end gear they've been picking up through their levelling up, and are in for a very nasty surprise. My only comfort was knowing it was the last mission in the Elachi arc, so I wouldn't be facing them again for a while.

Seriously, I was prepared to just let them have New Romulus by the end. Would you miss it? Is it worth it?

This character is why I don't play my Romulan any more. Tovan Khev is NOT my BFF! Get him off my bridge!

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# 5
05-17-2013, 03:07 AM
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never bothered leveling up that high, again, but it sounds like theres an actually challenging mission to look forward too. unless all this wineing about it gets it nerfed into nothing. seriously, the average pve'er uses their ship to about 10% of its potential, and the devs balance the pve based on those people. thats why space pve is so frigging bad.
Know what? No. No, I'm done with reading these posts and not responding.

The game is appropriately challenging. It's balanced so the average player can work their way through it without undue frustration, and optional challenges, like elite STFs, are present to push more advanced players to their limits. If it were harder, especially during the leveling process, it would chase away a LOT more players than the extra difficulty would draw in.

And being good enough at the game that you complain about it being boring... well, for starters, I honestly don't believe you are. I finish significantly more elite STFs than I don't, while playing pick-up groups. I've beaten Super Mario Bros. The Lost Levels. I've beaten Through the Fire and the Flames on Hard. I've been playing video games since the days of Nintendo Hard, and I have to say this:

I don't like playing the same thing over and over again and failing. That happens more than enough in daily life, to everyone, that I feel no need to have it in my entertainment as well. I've paid my dues, both in life and in gaming, and I'm done. And, if STO decides to rush the fake difficulty train with ridiculously over-statted enemies and one-hit kills in the basic story content, I will be done with the game. And so will a lot more people than the number who say, "Wow, STO's frustrating and unfair! I can't wait to try it!"
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# 6
05-17-2013, 03:15 AM
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Know what? No. No, I'm done with reading these posts and not responding
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This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
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# 7
05-17-2013, 03:17 AM
Sure it's not just you being bad at fighting the Elachi?
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# 8
05-17-2013, 03:27 AM
So I didn't go past Nimbus to not spoil myself, but I am curious do the elachi at least use a new and interesting damage type ? or is it the same old Antiproton/plasma/disruptor whatever just with inflated numbers?
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# 9
05-17-2013, 03:33 AM
To be honest, I'm not certain what they're using. Whatever it is, they took out the entire NPC fleet in less than a minute, leaving my ship as the only one capable of doing anything. Not a fun situation.

This character is why I don't play my Romulan any more. Tovan Khev is NOT my BFF! Get him off my bridge!
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# 10
05-17-2013, 03:35 AM
Hrmmm, there is an issue with that mission - imho - that results in your first death. You end up stuck out front and get slaughtered as everything targets you. It's kind of funny, imho. After that though, uh - my experience was not the same in the least.

I was actually going to say it would be nifty if the rest of the NPCs got a sort of pass to be brought up to the level of the Elachi. They've got the best AI I've seen in STO. Sure, it's still catering to the casual player - but I could see it being applied to ESTFs and them actually feeling like ESTFs.

The encounters before and after the Elachi just pale in comparison...


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